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Poll Results: How do you feel about crypto currencies in general (not any specific coin)?

 
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    This is the future of financial transactions and will replace current systems in 5-10 years!
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    It's an evolutionary step, but without regulation and standardization will likely be replaced eventually.
  • 20% (13)
    It's likely to go strong for a few years, but long-term will simply be viewed as a fad.
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    It's a ridiculous ponzi-scheme, and it could all collapse entirely any second now!
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I'm up 2000% on my initial BC investment biggrin.gif

My new target buy is 15k sat - I don't see it dropping back to 10k anytime soon and I'm certain we will reach 20k+ soon. Which is why I've been saying for days that anything under 10k was a good buy despite the mass panic selling that was going on, but now we are moving on.

BlackCoinPool is adding 10,000 BC to the total payout sum Sunday so if you mine you will profit. They are planning to add another 10,000 if they reach 5 GH/s and yet another if they reach 10 GH/s

http://www.blackcoin.co/mining/a-thank-you-from-the-blackcoinpool-blackcoin-devs/

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Yup yup... held everything... and I'm not taking profits until we've surpassed $30M in market cap at least... I bought more today at 15.5K and I'm not even slightly worried. After the way it held up while BTC and others tanked in unison... I'm not really sure what it would take to truly kill it off.

When you consider the fact that in comparison LTC and BTC are both significantly inflationary even now... unless everyone panics at once... people will be able to cash out what they need and the rest will just keep on growing.

I see an leveling off around 25K for awhile with possible interim consolidation in the 13K-15K range - but I don't think it will hang out here for long. biggrin.gif
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Yup yup... held everything... and I'm not taking profits until we've surpassed $30M in market cap at least... I bought more today at 15.5K and I'm not even slightly worried. After the way it held up while BTC and others tanked in unison... I'm not really sure what it would take to truly kill it off.

When you consider the fact that in comparison LTC and BTC are both significantly inflationary even now... unless everyone panics at once... people will be able to cash out what they need and the rest will just keep on growing.

I see an leveling off around 25K for awhile with possible interim consolidation in the 13K-15K range - but I don't think it will hang out here for long. biggrin.gif

So from what I can tell, BC is impossible to mine, unless you buy coins first?
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So from what I can tell, BC is impossible to mine, unless you buy coins first?

BC runs a multipool that pays out in BC.

Official Website - http://www.blackcoin.co
Official Multipool - http://blackcoinpool.com
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BC runs a multipool that pays out in BC.

Official Website - http://www.blackcoin.co
Official Multipool - http://blackcoinpool.com

cool. but does having more coins in your wallet give you an advantage (other than when transferring coins)?
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cool. but does having more coins in your wallet give you an advantage (other than when transferring coins)?

BC has had an exceptional few weeks. They seem to have a long game. Will it work? No idea. But has had a steady increase while others have been declining due to BTC getting hammered.

I'm not mining them at the moment but am buying them. Went to sleep last night at 9500 and woke up to 19000.
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BC has had an exceptional few weeks. They seem to have a long game. Will it work? No idea. But has had a steady increase while others have been declining due to BTC getting hammered.

I'm not mining them at the moment but am buying them. Went to sleep last night at 9500 and woke up to 19000.

Well, technically no one is mining them... the multipool just works exactly the same as others do... but pays out in BC because it's purchased with the altcoins/BTC that are being mined.

This is the important distinction that cannot be overstated - you cannot mine BC at all anymore. The only way to 'technically' mine it is by holding a balance in your wallet - to get staking coins (however, you will only get 1% per year of that balance). There is simply no possibility for a large farm to dominate BC and then dump the price back down. So they can point their farm at the multipool... but that only increases the price of BC on the exchanges - so if they 'dump' what they got immediately (which would be idiotic IMO but whatever) they will only be selling back a fraction of the BC which was just purchased by the multipool in order to do payoffs.

tl;dr - The bigger the miner - the higher the value of everyone's BC... unlike a PoW coin like BTC/LTC/DOGE/etc... who are already struggling to find buyers for the float on the markets as it is... when a whale or pool dumps an additional 50M or whatever coins on the market... it drops like a rock until the excess can be absorbed.
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cool. but does having more coins in your wallet give you an advantage (other than when transferring coins)?

Yes... you earn more BC in your staking. It's the wallets and the staking process that secure the blockchain because there is no mining any longer. There's also no exorbitant electrical bills to pay for that security either. Staking is 1% compounded in 8 hour periods - but it's more complex than that as it's also a randomized lottery. This part is important because otherwise it would theoretically be possible for a single person (at great cost however) to have ~38M BC staking all at once... which would logically allow for a double-spend as that would create a 51% situation. For added security there is no way to know when during that period your stake will occur - and additionally your entire wallet will not always stake at the same amount and same times.

So although theoretically possible - where with PoW coins you only need greed and control of a huge farm - with PoS you need to posses a significant amount of the coin itself (making you it's biggest 'investor') and yet still want to effectively destroy both the coin's value and your own - with the only possible 'payout' being the possibility of double spending on an exchange... however, you would undoubtedly drop the price of your 'real' wallet by 50% during the first trade... so you'd wind up with about the same amount as before... and the coin's reputation would be damaged to the point that you would more likely simply lose almost everything.

Good information in this article if interested... some things are a little out of date as BC is a little more advanced implementation than PPC.. but still good.
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It is pretty much a piramide game. As long as the multipool grows the demand for BC grows with it and will bump the value continuesly as the pool will keep buying more and more BC with the altcoins they mine to pay out their miners. But if the pool would have a big technical issue or the amount of miners will drop on the pool it means the demand will drop significantly and along will the value dramatically.

It is quite clever, but in the end it will collapse like every pyramide game does. Because the growth is done and the system fails at that point.
Unless of course at some point shops will accept BC like they do BTC.
 
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It is pretty much a piramide game. As long as the multipool grows the demand for BC grows with it and will bump the value continuesly as the pool will keep buying more and more BC with the altcoins they mine to pay out their miners. But if the pool would have a big technical issue or the amount of miners will drop on the pool it means the demand will drop significantly and along will the value dramatically.

It is quite clever, but in the end it will collapse like every pyramide game does. Because the growth is done and the system fails at that point.
Unless of course at some point shops will accept BC like they do BTC.

BC is not a game, it is the solution to BTC's flaws; fast, real world 10 second confirm times, rapidly expanding merchant acceptance, stable, predictable inflationary rate, "green" friendly mining proposition. Sure, the pool provides some buy support, but it pales to the total daily volume of the coin.

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BC is currenlty a game like every other alternative coin is.
Be free to think the pool is only a fraction of the buy volume.

I hope BC goes to the moon. I am in BC myself. Went from 0,6 btc tot 1,1 btc in 2 days because of it.
But it is a pyramide game. The pool and its buzz are currently massively important. Take it away and see a plunge.

It is a fun game though. A good friend of me has been preachign BC from day 1. He started with an investment in BC of 0,5 BTC...it is now worth around 20-25 BTC.
 
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