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Poll Results: Where should i upgrade, and with what?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 75% of voters (6)
    CPU
  • 12% of voters (1)
    GPU
  • 12% of voters (1)
    GTX 760
  • 0% of voters (0)
    GTX 770
  • 0% of voters (0)
    r9 280X
  • 12% of voters (1)
    FX 8350
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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hello all,
I built my pc (mostly) in 2010, with pretty good stuff then. I recently have been playing ESO and have no problem playing on full settings, but i was messing around with MSI afterburner and had the fps counter up. i realised i was only getting 30-35 fps.... which is not bad, but not the 80-90 i was getting back in 2010.
anyway, a lot of the benchmarks and stuff still say my rig is pretty good, even the phenom 2 970 is still a better gaming chip. im wondering where i should upgrade, if its really worth it at all.

my main focus is cpu/gpu. i was looking at a 760, 770, maybe a r9-280x


current rig is ( edit: in signature now)

phenom 2 970 CPU
gigabyte 5870 GPU
biostar ta890fxe MB
8gb ram

oh, and im not trying to spend more than $600
Edited by azurath - 3/1/14 at 3:36pm
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post #2 of 12
Talking strictly within context of Elder Scrolls Online, upgrading your gpu (even though it's old) isn't going to do much of anything for that game. Cpu upgrade gets my vote. In which case, for any single threaded games (which MMO's are notorious for being), I'd go Intel.

Edit: With that budget and taking some time to hunt down good bargains, you just might be able to manage a complete overhaul cpu, gpu, and mobo.
Edited by computerparts - 3/1/14 at 3:27pm
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well i was looking at a new mobo, Fx 8350, and a gtx 770 at around 600 bucks. Im not opposed to intel, but they tend to be much higher in price for equal performance.
also, i cant play ultra in BF4, which is upsetting to me.
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post #4 of 12
3570k is only 20 dollars more than the fx 8350. I love my fx 8350 but mine is sitting on a asus crosshair v formula z and paired with a gtx 780 classified. If you are going the fx route get a quality board. I had a cheap msi board hooked up to my fx 8350 and was not happy with the performance at all. I am currently selling that board for $40 if that says how cheap it was. I had a 3570k in another rig I parted out loved it a lot was about equal to my fx just slightly better also selling a board for that one. But maybe used parts would help you get your biggest bang for your dollar
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post #5 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by azurath View Post

Im not opposed to intel, but they tend to be much higher in price for equal performance.
also, i cant play ultra in BF4, which is upsetting to me.

For BF4, AMD may offer pretty good value on the CPU front, but for many games, especially many MMOs, the $120 i3-4130 on the boxed cooler on a $75 motherboard will perform about the same as the $300 FX-9590 on a $135+ board. (Sadly, sometimes the i3 is actually *better* in these titles)

Here's an older bench for consideration from TomsHardware:



Note the i3 Ivy thoroughly embarrassing the FX-8350 in ES V. The i3-4130 is 10-20% faster. Also.... The FX chip gains nothing over Deneb in that title.

Not sure how the ESO engine compares, hows your CPU usage when playing? stacked on 1-2 cores or spread out?
Edited by mdocod - 3/2/14 at 6:58pm
     
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post #6 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdocod View Post

For BF4, AMD may offer pretty good value on the CPU front, but for many games, especially many MMOs, the $120 i3-4130 on the boxed cooler on a $75 motherboard will perform about the same as the $300 FX-9590 on a $135+ board. (Sadly, sometimes the i3 is actually *better* in these titles)

Here's an older bench for consideration from TomsHardware:



Note the i3 Ivy thoroughly embarrassing the FX-8350 in ES V. The i3-4130 is 10-20% faster. Also.... The FX chip gains nothing over Deneb in that title.

Not sure how the ESO engine compares, hows your CPU usage when playing? stacked on 1-2 cores or spread out?

I thought elder scrolls v was capped at 30fps anyways. Also what GPU is being used seeing as the FX series has no onboard graphics I would be curious to know
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GTX680 was used for that bench.
     
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post #8 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdocod View Post

For BF4, AMD may offer pretty good value on the CPU front, but for many games, especially many MMOs, the $120 i3-4130 on the boxed cooler on a $75 motherboard will perform about the same as the $300 FX-9590 on a $135+ board. (Sadly, sometimes the i3 is actually *better* in these titles)

Here's an older bench for consideration from TomsHardware:



Note the i3 Ivy thoroughly embarrassing the FX-8350 in ES V. The i3-4130 is 10-20% faster. Also.... The FX chip gains nothing over Deneb in that title.

Not sure how the ESO engine compares, hows your CPU usage when playing? stacked on 1-2 cores or spread out?

Most if not all the Skyrim benches out there were before the patch. Also from what I gather, ESO seems to be quite different seeing how it's dx11.
post #9 of 12
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my CPU tends to be about 90% when playing BF4, across all cores. on ESO it seems to be about 50% on two cores.
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post #10 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by azurath View Post

my CPU tends to be about 90% when playing BF4, across all cores. on ESO it seems to be about 50% on two cores.

I would upgrade your cpu and than upgrade your gpu down the road when you get the money or if you can buy a used gpu at the same time
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