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post #11 of 20
Browns feel gross IMO, like dirty reds or broken blues. Not really a huge fan of blacks either.

Reds, blues, clears, whites, grays and greens are all lovely though, in their own ways.

Ergo clears seem like they would be really nice, but I don't have any boards I'm willing to modify yet.
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post #12 of 20
you need to try the keys yourself... and then even you need to try the keys on the keyboard you want to buy ideally as the choice of back plate and ..etc design choices can affect the fee.


such a subjective and individual taste issue... the last poster can't stand browns....I love browns followed by reds and blacks and I can't stand blues.. you couldn't pay me to use a mx-blue keyboard don't care for the the feel and the noise ..but to each their own.


one thing that i like (not everyone does) but for me it is a must have for reducing bottoming out noise is dampers

I got my WASD V1 (mx-brown) with them pre-installed

and I got these

http://www.amazon.com/008-Buna-N-O-Ring-Durometer-Round/dp/B0051XWXCE/ref=pd_cp_pc_0

for my Rosewill RK9000 (mx-red) took a while to put them on but worth it

just make sure you have a key puller or buy one (good to have even if you didn't want to put the dampers on)

http://www.amazon.com/WASD-Keyboards-Wire-Keycap-Puller/dp/B00AZCGF7K/ref=pd_sim_indust_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=16T78TJJ8Y6YJM4ZPB37
post #13 of 20
Get MX Browns if you think you'll use the tactility, MX Reds if not. Whilst the tactile bump in MX Browns is fairly small, it can help to reduce mistypes which can be prevalent in the light, linear MX Reds.
post #14 of 20
For a first board, I think MX Brown switches would be more appropriate. It gives you a feel for where the actuation point is with its tactility, yet is sufficiently light that it doesn't feel like a distraction. Best thing you could do is get a switch sampler set if you can't test them out in a store. If they're too noisy or you find the travel length too long when bottoming out, consider getting O-rings. Otherwise, imo you're making a good choice with the Ducky.

No need to really sweat the details right now...that comes later ;-) when this becomes a habit.

PS If you were considering Topre's...save them for the end game, when you can discern the differences.
post #15 of 20
There are plenty of downloadable or web based programs that play a keystroke "click" sound upon actuation of any key to create audible feedback of the actuation point - this is commonly used by people who like the low force of reds, but want to avoid bottoming out. In that sense, this kind of makes reds a better choice... I personally like browns and prefer the physical, allbeit subtle, tactility they offer. I find it very easy to avoid bottoming out and my RSI and typing speed are better for it.

Whoever said you should simply test drive each switch on a number of boards has given you the best advice, I think. My flimsy Cherry board with blues feels completely different to blues on say a Das keyboard or Filco ... almost like the difference between a toy and a tool.

EDIT: I felt like adding - I have dampening rings on my home keyboard, which is a Ducky Shine 3 with browns. This was a compromise between my wife and myself, but personally, I prefer the feel without them. This doesn't take away from the previous comments, but in fact, I feel it simply highlights how personal the choice really is. There is no right or wrong.

EDIT 2: Just because I was in your shoes once upon a time: I bought the switch sampler kit from WASD and in all honesty, I think it falls a long distance short of simply test driving actual keyboards. I hated the feel of blues from the sampler kit, but when I felt them on a Das backboard, I fell in love. Similarly, I thought reds felt great, but ended up with browns after actually comparing some boards at the local PC shop.
Edited by zigziglar - 3/4/14 at 6:07pm
post #16 of 20
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So I´m typing on red ATM and still undecided, I quite like both. Tomorrow I´ll try browns once again and Hopefully I´ll make up my decision.
post #17 of 20
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So I´m typing on red ATM and still undecided, I quite like both. Tomorrow I´ll try browns once again and Hopefully I´ll make up my decision.

See if you can try them side by side while they are actually connected to a PC so you can really "feel" the differences. Honestly, I think if low resistance is your main priority, then red vs brown can be such a hard decision that ultimately boils down to whether or not you like or dislike the subtle tactility on the browns. Chances are you'll change your mind in a few months regardless of the choice now anyway tongue.gif
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See if you can try them side by side while they are actually connected to a PC so you can really "feel" the differences. Honestly, I think if low resistance is your main priority, then red vs brown can be such a hard decision that ultimately boils down to whether or not you like or dislike the subtle tactility on the browns. Chances are you'll change your mind in a few months regardless of the choice now anyway tongue.gif

ye biggrin.gif I can´t try them side by side. I´m making a lot of misspells on red and writing slower then I used to write, but I assume that will change after I get used to the keyboard.
post #19 of 20
There's a mixed opinion base on browns - as one guy above stated, many people feel like they are too much of a compromise between red and blue and achieve none of the good points of either. Then on the other hand there is strong support for them too. I personally think browns are more versatile than reds on the prerequisite that the subtle bump is actually useful to you. Many people who are used to Blue switches or their old rubber dome boards never get used to how subtle the tactility is on browns and bottom them out all the time and would be better served by either reds or blues or even clears.

I found with reds I would accidentally depress keys to actuation when resting my hands between keystrokes. Even though the bump on the browns doesn't really add any extra resistance, technically, it provides subtle feedback that your brain subconsciously interprets that (at least for me) prevents these kinds of errors and also gives that little bit of feedback to let your brain know that the key press has registered.

As above, many people feel that this is what Blues offer, but in a much more obvious manner. All personal preference in the end.
Edited by zigziglar - 3/5/14 at 1:51pm
post #20 of 20
I have used blues, browns and reds. Of the three I prefer browns, but just ordered a number pad with blues to give them a 2nd try as well. Reds do not have any tactile bump and while they are very easy to type on I was always amazed at how much better browns felt when I went home. (work keyboard had reds and home keyboard has browns. I just ordered a new keyboard with browns for work)
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