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Help with overclocking the 8350 on msi 970a-g45

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I need help overclocking my amd fx 8350 to either 4.8ghz or 5.0ghz on a msi 970a-g45. I'm stuck at 4.4ghz overclocked by the multiplier.




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post #2 of 36
It's not going to happen. The motherboard does not have the power phases necessary to pull off that sort of overclock.

You need a GOOD (robust) 990FX motherboard in order to reach that level, and even then, I'm not sure it will be possible on just an H100.
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keep it at stock or buy a better motherboard.
if not, upgrade your fire insurance please.
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listen to the above poster. If you insist on using the board you need some fans and a heatsink on the VRMs just keep it from throttling at stock/undervolted settings. Overclocking will kill the board and possibly the cpu/ram.
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the only thing I used to overclock is the multipler since I'm still a newbee at overclocking.
    
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http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

Read up on the subject here, it will save you some grief
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I'm under the impression that MSI supposedly improved their VRM designs on the newer AM3+ boards, but the G45 may still be pretty limited. A good indicator of overclocking potential is whether or not the ole 140W TDP phenom II's are on the CPU support list. In this case, they are not, as such, I would tend to believe that overclocking an 8-core FX chip on this board isn't going to go very well or very far. (interestingly enough, the higher end of the 125W TDP chips like the FX-8350 actually draw ~140W under full load)

That said, if you *do* want to overclock on this board there are some thing you could do to improve your chances of success that don't involve fire/destruction/meltdown...

1. Learn how to control the voltage drive on the board. Learn the under-volting limits of the chip at stock clocks. If you have enough under-volting headroom, then you will also have overclocking headroom without exceeding the "stock" power consumption. Power changes linearly with clock speed but by approximately the square of the voltage change. (if you can decrease voltage by 10%, then you can overclock by 20% and still have similar power consumption. Unfortunately, increased voltage is used to correct for stability at higher speeds, so this is a catch 22 scenario). A "good" FX-8350 would give you 4.4ghz at ~1.30V. This sort of overclock at that sort of voltage would be similar to "stock" power consumption.
2. Install a fan over the VRM heatsink.
3. Consider disabling cores of the CPU to improve overclocking headroom while staying within power limits.
4. Turn off turbo core, but consider leaving APM enabled, it can clock down and under-volt the chip in parallel workloads to reduce power consumption under worst-case scenarios, this can act as a "buffer" to protect you from the potentially damaging effects of an overclock that the board would not support. Utilizing APM (or turbocore) as part of an oveclock requires extensive testing to achieve the desired results.
     
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would a asus crosshair v formula z be better for overclocking the 8350 to 5ghz?
    
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would a asus crosshair v formula z be better for overclocking the 8350 to 5ghz?

That mobo can do it yes.
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128GB sandisk extreme SSD 2 tb Western digital media intel 530 128 gb SSD EK Coolstream 360mm PE Rad  
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EK FC980 Strix Water Block swiftech MCP-35X EK XRES 140 DDC Top Gentle typhoon AP-15 X 3 
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