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Which of the Two CPU blocks is superior + how do I clean them

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Left side = GTZ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Right Side = GTX

Ok so I have in my possession 2 used Swiftech CPU blocks, the Apogee GTX and GTZ. I'm not quite sure which of the two is the superior block for cooling my i5. On the surface the GTX appears to be the better one, but this is purely speculation on my part. Since I am new to watercooling I find myself unsure how to go about cleaning the oxidization that has occurred on the GTZ block. Is there any safe and effective cleaning solution I can use?

Which of the Two based on there current condition would you recommend I used in my build?
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post #2 of 7
Probably the GTZ. You can submerge them in lemon juice.
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Question. The GTZ looks less effective compared to the GTX with it's rather tall copper fins. Is there a reason design wise that somehow explains why the GTZ is a better cooling design. It seems the GTZ is the successor to the GTX, from what I gather.

As far as cleaning goes, pure lemon juice is all I need? How about a toothbrush?
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Originally Posted by Nightingale View Post

Question. The GTZ looks less effective compared to the GTX with it's rather tall copper fins. Is there a reason design wise that somehow explains why the GTZ is a better cooling design. It seems the GTZ is the successor to the GTX, from what I gather.

As far as cleaning goes, pure lemon juice is all I need? How about a toothbrush?

The channels are much smaller in the GTZ so more surface area. I can tell you that because my EK blocks look similar.

Leave it overnight in lemon juice and then brush it off and wash it with water.

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post #5 of 7
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After soaking the block in pure lemon juice concentrate overnight, here is my result. Some of the discolouration has been clean off but the majority remains.

I was wondering I have some Brasso here. I have seen other on Overclock recommend using this stuff to clean difficult copper stains. Is this a safe alternative?
Some say that these light abrasive chemical cleaner leave a residue film behind, but it can be removed with vinegar or Isopropyl alcohol.
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Tried already, did next to nothing. frown.gif
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