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So, this morning my trusty 1tb barracuda start making the dreaded clicking noises. Seeing as I have ~860gb of stuff, most of which I need to use in the next few days and rather not lose. I went out and bought a 4tb WD red. (they only stocked WD's, didn't have black/green/blue's and the red was the only 4tb one. Plus I was in a rush to get a working drive).

I was wondering is there any disadvantages/advantages in using the drive in a desktop instead of the intended nas server?
Edited by N3C14R - 3/3/14 at 3:49am
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There are no real disadvantages, it is a HDD, it has a spindle and mechanical components. I think the tests for Reds are more harsh than green's and blue's, so you might have a reliability increase if they are meant for server use.
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Ahh okay thanks.smile.gif
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I use a WD Red on the desktop. It's pretty excellent because it's very quiet which is what I was after. It might be the fastest 5400 RPM drive.

Internally, it's probably related to the Green, has a similar speed. Compared to the Green, the WD Red gets stuff done faster in benchmarks that try to simulate application use, boot times, etc. Some synthetics looked better on the Green I think, but the Red strangely ends up beating it in practice.

The firmware has differences (besides whatever it does that makes it win in benchmarks). It does not do that head-parking after a handful of seconds like the Green. This might prolong life for the Red. A big, serious difference is that if it encounters surface errors, it will by default give up on reading/writing after seven seconds. This is so that it won't get dropped by RAID controllers in a NAS. A normal desktop drive instead retries reading/writing for minutes, so pretty much completely locks up if it runs into an error on the disks. The feature is called "TLER". If you want to disable that, you need to do that after every boot because the drive will forget it after shutdown.

A tool that can disable TLER would be "smartmontools". It's a command line tool and comes from Linux, but there's a Windows port. You'd have to schedule to execute "smartctl -l scterc,0,0 /dev/sdb" at each boot (that /dev/sdb means it's the second drive, or you can use a drive letter on Windows instead of that).

Here's an article on Wikipedia about TLER: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_recovery_control

The "wdtler" DOS tool mentioned does not work on the WD Red as far as I've seen.

I don't know if that TLER stuff is really serious or not. The desktop drives locking up for minutes when they can't read data typically won't save anything, just be annoying. Afterwards, you'll probably replace the drive anyway because your confidence in it will drop to zero.
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I got a 3tb one in my desktop pretty fast.. faster than my old black and silent
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The Reds are getting worse user reviews than the other WD drives.
     
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The Reds are getting worse user reviews than the other WD drives.
Unless the failure rates of the reds are higher than the 3tb+ barracudas, it shouldn't pose much of a problem.
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Forgot to ask, according to the specs the formatted capacity is 4tb, but when I used disk management to format the drive it became 3.63tb. Is it suppose to be like that?
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Forgot to ask, according to the specs the formatted capacity is 4tb, but when I used disk management to format the drive it became 3.63tb. Is it suppose to be like that?
Mine are the same way. I have a 2tb red and a black and they both come out to 1.81tb after the format.
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Unless the failure rates of the reds are higher than the 3tb+ barracudas, it shouldn't pose much of a problem.

They are.
     
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