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Lightning is mean to be the card for high end water/ln2. If you want a card to run on air get the tri-x.

The designed a triple slot cooler to keep it cool on air.
If it was emant to be watercooled they would sell it watercooled or with a flimsy aircooler.

Like the new KFA2 GTX 780 TI. They are selling it cheaper than the reference with an oldschool flimsy plastic cooler. That way you can buy the card cheaper and just slam a waterblock onto it.
 
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post #72 of 83
Agree with the above - what on earth is the point of creating a card with outstanding cooling components to be chopped off and replaced with a water kit.

Most of us out there are on air thumb.gif
Edited by ladcrooks - 3/4/14 at 2:57am
post #73 of 83
Why use 5 heatpipes on a hotter core, compared to 7 on the 780? The cooler is rated for 450 w instead of 520 on the 780. I know gk100 die is bigger maybe 7 heatpipes wont touch the gpu on the 290x.

The cooler isnt DHT, maybe they tweaked the cooler to be more efficient.
Edited by MoBeeJ - 3/4/14 at 2:55am
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they gave it a boss cooler so people who base their gpu purchase solely off paid reviewers will pick that card over another card.
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post #75 of 83
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Talking about how reviewers get these ln2 gpus, give it a tiny overclock on air then say stuff like "with this overbuilt pcb I was expecting more from it." Well duh, it was meant to be cold, not run at 9373847c trying to overclock it on stock volts.

I know air coolers are handy for extreme OCers as well and that in order to get their money back from this thing they have to sell it to gamers as well.

But I still wish that the review samples of these cards would ship with nothing but a bare pcb and a reviewers guide telling reviewers to either go grab a dewar or stick to reviewing gaming edition cards.

Maybe shipping all classy and lightning cards with a stock clock of 500mhz would help. Kind of like the good old TWKR chips back in the day.

Or maybe the problem is just with the fact that MSI/Asus/EVGA all seem to want to have their OCing products as their overall flagship product as well. Maybe they should just take a note from gigabyte's mobo business and design separate lines for feature stripped pure OCing and for flashy gaming.
 
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post #76 of 83
I severely doubt they'd make any money from a product geared solely towards extreme benching that's of no use to power users (for whatever reason).

Many people buying motherboards like the X58A-OC just got them because they want the absolute best. I wonder how many of them never even saw a waterblock.
   
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post #77 of 83
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I know air coolers are handy for extreme OCers as well and that in order to get their money back from this thing they have to sell it to gamers as well.

Yeah that does come in handy lol tongue.gif
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But I still wish that the review samples of these cards would ship with nothing but a bare pcb and a reviewers guide telling reviewers to either go grab a dewar or stick to reviewing gaming edition cards.

That would be awesome, but you know the reviews would come out and it would be like " MSI LIGHTNING MASSIVE FLOP, HITS 100C INSTANTLY, NO COOLER INCLUDED DURRURURURURR"
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Maybe shipping all classy and lightning cards with a stock clock of 500mhz would help. Kind of like the good old TWKR chips back in the day.

I can already imagine the review sites going nuts about the cards getting beaten by other cards without bothering to look at the stock clocks lol

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Or maybe the problem is just with the fact that MSI/Asus/EVGA all seem to want to have their OCing products as their overall flagship product as well. Maybe they should just take a note from gigabyte's mobo business and design separate lines for feature stripped pure OCing and for flashy gaming.

I wish this would happen so much, gigabytes mobos are spot on with how things should be. MSI kind of does it with their mpower/xpower and GD45/GD65 series in the z87 line up, but i think more people should do it. Its kind of stupid (IMO) for asus to market their republic of gamers boards with a ton of overclocking ln2 features that a gamer would never use, the ROG boards would be way cheaper for gamers if they didnt have to pay extra for all that stuff they wont touch.
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post #78 of 83
FYI I wouldn't take that quote kinked above regarding the warranty as fact. I have called and spoken to 3 separate MSI reps yesterday and 2 of them said it would be void and the 3rd said it would be the discretion of the service technician to decide.
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So much fail after i sow the Void Warranty Stiker.

That's what I thought on my XFX - that cooler's been off 3-4 times before I RMA'd it, oh and the stickers were still intact & undamaged.

Anyone here who has the ability to take apart a gfx card and replace the thermal paste, also has the ability to think outside the box for removing that screw. And I had 2 of my XFX thumb.gif
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Bump for the actual Review Video.




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