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Fair enough, I suppose that makes sense. However, I stand by my recommendation to get a PSU providing more than 600 watts for a build with a 780. 500-550 watts will certainly suffice, but in my opinion, better safe than sorry, especially when if overclocking.
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Fair enough, I suppose that makes sense. However, I stand by my recommendation to get a PSU providing more than 600 watts for a build with a 780. 500-550 watts will certainly suffice, but in my opinion, better safe than sorry, especially when if overclocking.

Tons of users have 500-550 watts units for really high end cards and none of them have had any problems

No problem with having room but even a high end gaming PC with OC on everything and and a full water setup wont draw more then 300-350 watts

Thats at least 150-200 watts to spare with a 550 watts
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I would revise my RAM choice to this then. Assuming 2 sticks, dual channel. It's a step up to 1866 at stock.
OK. That 1866 RAM is CAS 10 while the Trident X is 1600 and CAS 7. roughly 5% difference in price. Will the performance between the two be noticeable?
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Iirc intel cpus prefer high bandwidth to lower latency, though I could he wrong. Ive always had better luck lowering latency than I have had increasing frequency.
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Tons of users have 500-550 watts units for really high end cards and none of them have had any problems

No problem with having room but even a high end gaming PC with OC on everything and and a full water setup wont draw more then 300-350 watts

Thats at least 150-200 watts to spare with a 550 watts

I looked up some reviews for the 780 for power consumption. Looks like you're right.

A stock i7-3820 and 780 draws only 302 watts according to techreport's review. An overclocked i7-3960X and 780 draws 405 watts according to Anandtech. Cool.
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I looked up some reviews for the 780 for power consumption. Looks like you're right.

A stock i7-3820 and 780 draws only 302 watts according to techreport's review. An overclocked i7-3960X and 780 draws 405 watts according to Anandtech. Cool.

Just skip the part where he talks about efficiency he does not understand how it works and so what he says is wrong

Everything else is right
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OK. looks like I'm gonna go with the XFX XTR 550W instead of the 650/750W Seasonic. Thanks for the help there. Saved me some cash.


Now, I need someone who knows something about RAM to help me pick a good kit. I still don't know if it is worth it to pay for low CAS and if it matters on the frequency.

In addition, please look at the first post and if there are any other suggestions on parts, hook me up. Otherwise, I'm gonna pull the trigger on the list I have now.


I have a microcenter nearby. They have a sale on the 4770K for 269.99. Yea, I gotta pay tax but that still is a good price so even more reason for me to go with that CPU over the 4670K.
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OK. looks like I'm gonna go with the XFX XTR 550W instead of the 650/750W Seasonic. Thanks for the help there. Saved me some cash.


Now, I need someone who knows something about RAM to help me pick a good kit. I still don't know if it is worth it to pay for low CAS and if it matters on the frequency.

In addition, please look at the first post and if there are any other suggestions on parts, hook me up. Otherwise, I'm gonna pull the trigger on the list I have now.


I have a microcenter nearby. They have a sale on the 4770K for 269.99. Yea, I gotta pay tax but that still is a good price so even more reason for me to go with that CPU over the 4670K.

CAS does not really matter that much unless its at least CL8 Vs CL12 or something like that

Speed matter more i would go with the a 1866 kit myself

Never had a problem with Kingston RAM myself and i have used Kingston for almost every build i have ever made
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Performance scaling with "fancy" fast memory varies. Generally it is pretty slim, however, the cost to buy into fancy memory is also not much more than "regular" these days, so if you're overclocking and performance tuning, the minor extra cost (~$20-30 premium on a 2x8GB kit) is money well spent if for no other reason than to enjoy the novelty of running a really big number for the sake of it.

The TridentX 1600-7@1.5V kit would have a lot of headroom to tinker. Good deal at $165 IMO. It can likely run at any "practical" speed that the memory controller can handle with custom timings.


2x8GB is what you want. A 4x4GB kit will just introduce more load on the IMC and reduce "peak" potential overclocking and performance tuning. As long as the dual channel kit you buy is double sided then you can run it with both channel and rank interleaving, which is as much as you can get from the dual channel controller in 1150 Socket Haswell CPUs. There is no quad channel memory option on the 1150 socket platform. (installing memory in the additional slots simply adds more ranks of memory for the dual channel controller to access).



Double check on that H110, for some reason I was under the impression that the new H100i was a better performer.
     
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Performance scaling with "fancy" fast memory varies. Generally it is pretty slim, however, the cost to buy into fancy memory is also not much more than "regular" these days, so if you're overclocking and performance tuning, the minor extra cost (~$20-30 premium on a 2x8GB kit) is money well spent if for no other reason than to enjoy the novelty of running a really big number for the sake of it.

The TridentX 1600-7@1.5V kit would have a lot of headroom to tinker. Good deal at $165 IMO. It can likely run at any "practical" speed that the memory controller can handle with custom timings.


2x8GB is what you want. A 4x4GB kit will just introduce more load on the IMC and reduce "peak" potential overclocking and performance tuning. As long as the dual channel kit you buy is double sided then you can run it with both channel and rank interleaving, which is as much as you can get from the dual channel controller in 1150 Socket Haswell CPUs. There is no quad channel memory option on the 1150 socket platform. (installing memory in the additional slots simply adds more ranks of memory for the dual channel controller to access).



Double check on that H110, for some reason I was under the impression that the new H100i was a better performer.
thanks for the info on the memory. I went with 2x8 1866 Gskill Sniper.

I did some research on the coolers and it seems stock for stock, comparing the H100i, H105 (new), and H110, the H110 performs slightly better due to its larger radiator and at lower dB. They are pretty close so you can't go wrong with any of them. However, one thing I didn't like was the extra cables on the H100i. I am considering buying replacement 140mm fans if I don't like the stockers after I run it for a bit. I am not sure but think that if I grab some pwm fans and connect them to the fan header on mobo then I can control their rpm. If the noise doesn't bother me I'll probably just stick with stock though.
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