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And here I am trying to conivce my schoolboard to switch XP PCs to Ubuntu.

Back when I was contracting around I convinced a school to set up to set up all their math computer labs on Ubuntu...all they did was go to some website for all class work and they were short a lot of Windows 7 licenses.
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If XP was compatible with all my hardware, I'd still be running it, for certain. Still don't really care for the bloated OS that Windows became with Vista onward.

I never installed security updates back then and still don't today... believe me, the internet bogeyman is not gonna get your PC. You've been conditioned to believe you will get all these virus and malware just by connecting. It's not true and I have seen the facts myself in over a decade of non Anit Virus and security updated, surfing the web of porn, pirate sites, etc.

This is a joke right?rolleyes.gif I mean, you are not this ignorant correct? Connect a Windows 98 computer to the internet with all the antivirus software you want and watch it become completely unusable within 15 minutes. I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a CSO...
    
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Originally Posted by rebelextrm02 View Post

QFT

Me: "Are you running XP or Windows 7?"
Customer: "I don't know."
Me: "Is your start button a circle or does it say start?"
Customer: "It says start."
Me: "Ok, you have XP then."
Customer: "I do???"
Me: "Sigh. Yes."

On win7 when the graphics flake out a bit (maybe not enough ram), windows sometimes ask if you want to lower your visual effects, if they click yes, then it would show "Start" instead of a circle.
Edited by Mrzev - 3/4/14 at 11:24am
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post #44 of 62
The site is just a USER-AGENT checker:



I suspect that some HUGE corporate empires will decide that writing their own solutions to keep XP secure is cheaper than upgrading or switching OSes...just like with that old COBOL stuff.
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On win7 when the graphics flake out a bit (maybe not enough ram), windows sometimes ask if you want to lower your visual effects, if they click yes, then it would show "Start" instead of a circle.

I do managed services for corporate customers. I would already be made aware of that problem before I ever needed to ask them what OS they were running and would change my questions to them. Trust me. My users freak out if anything on their computer changes or if they even think anything has changed. We once pushed out a policy to change everyone's theme to the Windows Basic theme, per their administrator's request, and got flooded with tickets from people complaining that they couldn't work anymore because their pretty colors were gone.
 
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post

Hmm...so what if I go there on my Gentoo laptop?

It displays a BSOD.
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That is insanely ignorant. For one, XP is unbelievably dated and just seems to have people parroting each other about how it is and was the best OS ever and always will be. SO much has changed now that it's obsolete and irreverent with todays hardware and software. Let it go...

But more importantly, you're missing the point. They aren't out there saying "We're not updating this OS anymore! Get Win8 or you'll get VIRUSES OOOOOOO! IT'S A BAD WORLD WITHOUT OUR SUPPORT!!"
They're not trying to scare you or the oldies out there still running it. It's for corporations. This is all for enterprises and business! Because ending support and never closing loopholes is a massive problem for them.

It's also slower than Vista/7/8. It uses less RAM and HDD space but in general games weren't as smooth, especially at low FPS...I remember going from XP to Vista on a 6800GS back when everything ran around 30-40fps for me, it was a lot smoother on Vista than XP.
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When software companies when out of business...my organization bought out the rights to use the software and started supporting it themselves...yes, we have a department of about a 100 people who are all programming in COBAL. It is insane how old a lot of the software is, though we have managed to update most of the organization to Win7. With some applications the users actually have to run a VM of Unix or XP in order to use them. Though it set up so seamless that most users don't even realize what they are doing when they start these applications.

It makes you wonder if it'll ever get cheaper to rewrite the program in a newer, more supported programming language than to continue supporting it.
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This is a joke right?rolleyes.gif I mean, you are not this ignorant correct? Connect a Windows 98 computer to the internet with all the antivirus software you want and watch it become completely unusable within 15 minutes. I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a CSO...

That depends if you include adblocking as anti-virus software, because that's where most malware tends to come from in my experience. You'd definitely have a far higher chance of getting infected on an ancient version of Windows and would be stupid not to patch and update, but not enough to make it happen ultra quick.
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Microsoft's free Windows XP transfer tool leaves you no excuses for not upgrading

I don't need an excuse to not replace an OS more suited to it's task than any later OS.
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[...]I don't know if it's the money holders or IT folks, possibly both, that have prevented some companies from upgrading. Well, what's going to happen after April 8, should be an interesting show to watch.

Turns out, companies just hate paying to replace equipment that is "...working just fine." We even get some clowns who want to buy Windows7 and put it on 8-year-old hardware because "it still works."

Even if they did opt for new hardware, it's going to be difficult to replace them before April 8th... there's an estimated 289,000,000 Windows XP machines in use right now; if just 5% of those get tossed over in favor of new hardware before the April 8th deadline, that would be about 14.5 million machines. Who has 14.5 million machines ready for delivery?
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Me: "Are you running XP or Windows 7?"
Customer: "I don't know."
Me: "Is your start button a circle or does it say start?"
Customer: "It says start."
Me: "Ok, you have XP then."
Customer: "I do???"
Me: "Sigh. Yes."

Seriously?

I use classic themes on all of my Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 installs. They have a Start button.

I setup pretty much every install of Windows 7 the same way, because I find the Windows 2000 look to be light weight and efficient.


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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post

It's also slower than Vista/7/8.

I generally cannot tell the difference in performance.
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I remember going from XP to Vista on a 6800GS back when everything ran around 30-40fps for me, it was a lot smoother on Vista than XP.

Definitely not something I've experienced. In general, if it ran on XP, it ran just as fast as on later OSes, all other things being equal.

I do remember the first Dungeon Siege running twice as fast on Windows 98SE than any later OS, however.
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Seriously?

I use classic themes on all of my Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 installs. They have a Start button.

I setup pretty much every install of Windows 7 the same way, because I find the Windows 2000 look to be light weight and efficient.

Good for you. I was merely providing one example of one part of a conversation between me and an end user in response to a previous posters assertion that people would know what version of windows they are running. I take a large number of factors into account when asking any of my users/clients questions about anything when I'm gathering information about a problem to diagnose it.
 
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