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Originally Posted by ryanrenolds08 View Post

I mean, you are not this ignorant correct?

Speak for yourself.
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Connect a Windows 98 computer to the internet with all the antivirus software you want and watch it become completely unusable within 15 minutes...

What a load of nonsense.
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Originally Posted by rebelextrm02 View Post

Good for you. I was merely providing one example of one part of a conversation between me and an end user in response to a previous posters assertion that people would know what version of windows they are running. I take a large number of factors into account when asking any of my users/clients questions about anything when I'm gathering information about a problem to diagnose it.

Your example was still a bad one. The Start button saying Start doesn't remotely imply windows XP.
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post #52 of 62
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Speak for yourself.
What a load of nonsense.
Your example was still a bad one. The Start button saying Start doesn't remotely imply windows XP.

Why is it a bad example? Is it because I didn't include the entire conversation I would have with a customer? It was an example of a user having no idea what version of windows they were running. I wasn't trying to educate you or anyone else on how to determine if someone is running XP or not.
 
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post #53 of 62
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Hmm...so what if I go there on my Gentoo laptop?



Nice and simple on my Arch, and I have my UA switched to FF15
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post #54 of 62
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This is a joke right?rolleyes.gif I mean, you are not this ignorant correct? Connect a Windows 98 computer to the internet with all the antivirus software you want and watch it become completely unusable within 15 minutes. I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a CSO...

Actually he is right! Specially if it's a gated setup. I've been using a 98SE setup with an XP application compatibility layer and i haven't gotten virus on it yet, though i rarely use it.
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Why is it a bad example? Is it because I didn't include the entire conversation I would have with a customer? It was an example of a user having no idea what version of windows they were running. I wasn't trying to educate you or anyone else on how to determine if someone is running XP or not.

Because of special snowflakes. You see, because *I* download SupahStart and hide my Start Menu on the right hand side of the display while simultaneously configuring all of my machines to look like Windows 3.1 because *I* feel that such a configuration delivers a superior user experience, it invalidates the very notion that anyone would just, you know, leave the OS the way it shipped.

And while we're at it, why don't we just tell the general populace to keep running Windows XP, because hey, everyone has the same use case and environmental challenges. Christ's sake, some of you people are dangerously ignorant of they way computers are used in the real world.
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post #56 of 62
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Actually he is right! Specially if it's a gated setup. I've been using a 98SE setup with an XP com application compatibility layer and i haven't gotten virus on it yet, though i rarely use it.

Ah, well now that makes sense. I was speaking from personal experience - plugged in 98 machine on the domain...promptly unplugged about 8 minutes later. tongue.gif

If I ever need to do that again, I will gladly do so...on its very own VLAN. smile.gif
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Still running XP on my work laptop...I'm going to have to get on them to send me a newer one.
This thing is slow as balls.

    That slowness has nothing to do with XP.  Most likely, it is due to one or more of these factors:
 
  • The machine has an old, clunky HDD whose transfer speeds are ~1/4 of what your machine at home can do.  Depending on how old the HDD is, it may even have aging sectors that could be taking extra time to read.
  • That machine's HDD has seen a lot of programs and updates over the years and is a fragmented mess.  Run disk cleanup, delete all System Restore points, and then defragment it with MyDefrag (using the System Disk Monthly script) to help with this (you'll need to be an administrator in order to do these tasks, though).
  • Over the years, more and more programs have been added to the startup and service lists, bogging the machine down further.
  • The machine has a small amount of RAM compared to your home machine.
  • The machine is old and has a slow CPU compared to what you're used to at home.

    If you install XP on modern hardware, you'd be surprised just how snappy it can be.  I'm not saying that you'll get higher FPS on games, just that the OS is very responsive, light and quick.  I've also seen machines running Vista, 7 and 8 running (almost) unusably slow due to various reasons.  My point is that sluggishness isn't XP's fault.
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When software companies when out of business...my organization bought out the rights to use the software and started supporting it themselves...yes, we have a department of about a 100 people who are all programming in COBAL. It is insane how old a lot of the software is, though we have managed to update most of the organization to Win7. With some applications the users actually have to run a VM of Unix or XP in order to use them. Though it set up so seamless that most users don't even realize what they are doing when they start these applications.

Yea VMs are a definite work around. Some of my customers even use a vm with xp to run old dvr software for their security cameras while in ubuntu lol.

All of the Panera breads are still running xp on all of their point of sales and pos servers along with a lot of other restaurants. Like you said all will migrate when needed.
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The funny thing about this situation is that if it was an O/S from another company,the users would be salivating over the thought.
I wonder what that says about Windows users?
BTW,I use both XP and 7 on my machines.
I still like XP although I'm warming up to 7.
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This is a joke right?rolleyes.gif I mean, you are not this ignorant correct? Connect a Windows 98 computer to the internet with all the antivirus software you want and watch it become completely unusable within 15 minutes. I am going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a CSO...

My father was still using my old Windows 98 machine up until 2 years ago (he bought a laptop) and never had any problems. The system still runs beautifully, yet slowly, online. Like I said, you've been conditioned to believing you have to have all that junk.

Over a decade online and I have never, ever seen a virus. Malware, maybe, but that was something a quick reformat could fix in an hour or so. It's been quite a few years now since I've had any issues whatsoever.
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