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Hello, it's been a while since I've been around these parts, but I'm back for some help.

I'm looking to make a much more compact and lightweight build. Frankly I'm tired of my behemoth Cosmos 1000. So I'm looking at mini itx form factor, and would like some help with the build. At first I had my eye on the Silverstone Raven RVZ01B, but I think I'd rather not have to spend so much on the SFX form factor PSU to fit in it. So I'm open to suggestions for cases. I'd prefer not steel if possible. I'd like wifi built in, which is why I chose that mobo, even with a locked CPU.

So far I'm looking at:

Intel Core i5-4570 $159.99 @ Microcenter
ASRock Z87E-ITX $129.99 @ Microcenter
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $139.99 @ Microcenter

Total: $429.97

I'll be using my current GPU (560ti) and SSD and other peripherals. So really only need the CPU, mobo, ram, PSU, and case. Under $700 would be ideal too, but I'm willing to go a bit more.

Edit: Looking at cases, I like the 250D for the space it has. Was looking at the Node 304, but I'd rather not fight to get my GPU to fit.
Edited by esocid - 3/3/14 at 7:46pm
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You're looking at some pretty large cases for Mini ITX, 14-28 liters, which you are going to have to do if you want to use an ATX power supply. Personally I like the extra room a SFX PS gives you and don't mind the little extra cost. Have you looked at the Official uSFF/SFF Club Thread, it has a nice list of Mini ITX cases in orer of size with a picture and some specs.

I think you would really like a Silverstone Sugo SG05 or 06 case at about 11 liters, with either a Silverstone SFX 300w or 450W power supply. I like the SG06 with the aluminum face and front side vents. The money you save on the case more than makes up for the extra cost of the PS. Gigabyte has a nice H87 MB w/ wifi you should look at. If you want to upgrade the stock CPU cooler I included a nice one on this wish list >>>

Sugo SG06 Build
post #3 of 13
With SFX, go for the Silverstone ST45SF. Yes, the non-modular 80 Plus Bronze unit, not the modular 80 Plus Gold unit. Why?

1) Modular doesn't matter when you're using pretty much all the cables. About the only one you may not use is the peripheral cable. Guaranteed you will use all other cables (unless you only have mSATA SSD and no other drives).

2) Amazon has it for $60 shipped.

3) Been around for years and is proven quality.

4) Efficiency difference only 5%. You will probably be under 100W when you are not in games (or benchmarking, etc.). The difference in power draw will be around that of a typical nightlight. You will probably be around 300-350W load (from the wall). You're looking at around 15-17W power difference.

I would recommend buying it and the SG05-LITE $40 shipped or SG06-LITE $50 shipped separately. Why?

1) Cheaper buying separately than together. Amazon pricing for SG05-450 is $125. Separate PSU $60 and case $40 = $100.

2) Silverstone has wacky warranty terms. Buying the PSU separately gets 3 year warranty on PSU. Last I checked, buying the PSU as part of the case only gets 1 year.
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Thanks for that link. I was looking at other builds for what people were using. I'm open to different sizes, I'm just tired of a 40lb steel case, so anything will be smaller and lighter. With the Sugo I may have to invest in an external NAS. I have a few 1TB drives but I was hoping to consolidate that with a single 3TB and my current 128GB ssd in the case.

Thanks for the suggestion. I think the small case and SFX PSU looks like the way to go. I like that case too.
Edited by esocid - 3/4/14 at 7:51am
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post #5 of 13
I hear ya on the size thing. I built a Mini ITX NAS and am now looking for an even smaller comp to go with it. Your specs are very close to what I am deciding on but I don't want a graphics card. If I went with a GPU I would definately use the Sugo SG06, but without I am circling around something like this >>>

Lian Li Q03 Build

Real small with small footprint, and matches the NAS >>>

Lian Li Unraid NAS Build
post #6 of 13
If you are not using a disk drive, you can fit everything in a Rosewill Legacy V3+ (aka jonsbo v3 plus) 560ti isn't a long card at all . It's light and small and takes an atx PSU. Get the H87N-Wifi for less. i5 4570S to keep the heat down, performs the same it's just the turbo that's less to lower tdp. And of course it looks great ON the desk, and is almost fanless so it's real quiet.
post #7 of 13
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I think I'd rather stick with the Asrock. It's got better reviews so far, and it's $125 after rebate, versus $121 with shipping.

I won't be using an optical drive, and I think I'll go for the 4570S, only $10 more and worth it for temps and power usage. I think I like the SG06BB-LITE suggestion. So, the new build looks like this:

Intel 4570S $169.99
ASrock Z87E-ITX $124.99 after MIR
Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $127.50
Silverstone ST45SF 450W $69.36
Silverstone Sugo SG06 $49.99

Coming in at $541.83, wowza. Well under the $700 I was thinking. thumb.gif I can use the leftovers for a NAS. I'm going to pull the trigger on all but the CPU with Amazon and Newegg the motherboard. Will go pick up the CPU from Microcenter when I have a chance, and order the rest in the coming month.

Rep for the great input.
Edited by esocid - 3/4/14 at 3:36pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Allanitomwesh View Post

If you are not using a disk drive, you can fit everything in a Rosewill Legacy V3+ (aka jonsbo v3 plus) 560ti isn't a long card at all . It's light and small and takes an atx PSU. Get the H87N-Wifi for less. i5 4570S to keep the heat down, performs the same it's just the turbo that's less to lower tdp. And of course it looks great ON the desk, and is almost fanless so it's real quiet.

I looked at the 4570S because I am very worried about the heat in the Lian Li Q03, but that is a fanless case. Even so, any Intel chip is going to run cool most of the time. When I need to crank things up, (rarely), I don't want to be trottled back. That is why I went with the Zalman cooler, except I would use the Extreme ver with higher rpm. In the Sugo with case fan I think a 4570 with stock cooler would run fine, no need for the S or T version.

Am I wrong? I ask because I am not certain.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by esocid View Post

I have a few 1TB drives but I was hoping to consolidate that with a single 3TB

Go bigger. WD Red is now available in 4TB. Great choice for pure data storage.
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The failure rates on those doesn't really inspire confidence. I think I'm better off putting a 3TB in the build and putting my 1TB drives in a NAS.
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