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Howdy. I'm on the search for that "perfect" mouse. I posted in the ongoing mouse recommendation thread with no reply and since drew my own conclusions so that I can start narrowing the field. Basically, I have wide stumpy hands and I use a relaxed claw grip that occasionally turns into fingertip depending on how precise I am trying to be.

I like the ambidexterous mouse design where the buttons are just a natural part of the mouse shape, like the Kinzu V2, but this mouse was too big for my hands, despite only being 117mm long. Moulded button shapes tend to force miss clicks from me a lot more I've noticed.

I have the Razer Salmosa pro gamer edition, which is tiny, but it's almost too small. Small not so much in length, but height and width. It just creates stress on my fingers to be crimping in so far. Also, the switches on this mouse are so sensitive that I miss click the right button a lot.

I have contemplated trying the Zowie Mico due to its small size and I have heard its switches are super hard to press - possibly a good thing for my accidental iron grip, but there are so many bad things written about the Mico that make it a bit of a gamble.

I'm thinking of giving the Pyra a go before I try the Mico. Does anyone know how the switches on the Pyra compare? I find the switches on the Kinzu are great, except that I miss click a lot because my fingertips sit too far up on the button where the leverage is poor and required pressure is high (and this is a problem on most of the "small" mice in the 110-120mm length range).

Cheers!
post #2 of 9
Pyra switches are Omron, so if you tested the Kinzu v2 Pro edition and not the normal one they might be somewhat similar.

Tried to make 2 pictures for you (to illustrate the position, actuation point is pretty much as far to the front as possible on that PCBA:



Edited by Skar - 3/4/14 at 12:18am
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Fkmini-v3-wired-mouse-usb-laptop-lol-gaming-mouse-3500dpi.jpg

I used to be a fan of the Roccat Pyra (I'm a fingertip gripper), but I kept trying mice every now and then.
The best mouse I came accross hands down is a... Commatech m1 (fkmini v3).
The mouse doesn't look like much (it has Logitech Optical Mini shape or Mico), but it has Omron switches which feel very responsible, and the buttons aren't part of the shell so they are easy to press and don't feel mushy. It also features :
- Avago 3090 sensor with 1000/1800/3500 CPI steps (via switch below the mouse)
- 125/500Hz polling (via switch below the mouse)
- Teflon feet (they are tiny, but I don't have any issue on a cloth pad, they don't really sink in because the mouse is very light).
- Weighs 65g
- Dimensions are 104.38 x 60.02 x 30.04 mm (Lx of Wx H)
- Thin non-stif cord. Not braided (that's a plus for me).

The only downside is you have to order it from China, there's no seller in Eu or NA.
I bought it from Buychina which simplifies the process if you're a westerner - it's fairly safe and the order came in in about 3 weeks.

I wouldn't get the white version, as it seems to have a glossy finish, which sucks if you sweat a lot. Unless you like the feel of it.

For info what made me switch from Pyra to Commatech M1 was the few issues Pyra had : slightly wobbly right button, with right click actuation course slightly different (longer) than left click, and sharp edges. Also the Pyra had issues with the glue leaking from the rubberized sides after a while, but it's easily fixed by cleaning and applying your own glue.

Mico switches are Huano, they are very hard to press. Pyra's are much easier.
Edited by Kirisu - 3/4/14 at 12:59am
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Thanks a lot for the replies. The commatech looks great. I shall have a look at buychina. Cheers
post #5 of 9
Interesting, could you verify the commatech has a A3090? Have you open the mouse?

Did it perform like a A3090?
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by Kirisu View Post

Fkmini-v3-wired-mouse-usb-laptop-lol-gaming-mouse-3500dpi.jpg


The only downside is you have to order it from China, there's no seller in Eu or NA.
I bought it from Buychina which simplifies the process if you're a westerner - it's fairly safe and the order came in in about 3 weeks.
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All the vendors are saying "Sorry, this item isn't available, please choose other products". Any ideas?
post #7 of 9
I bought the commatech but cannot recommend it, especially if its an expansive import.

Did you check out the G100 or Lua?
post #8 of 9
Why you cannot recommend it?
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Originally Posted by Skar View Post

I bought the commatech but cannot recommend it, especially if its an expansive import.

Did you check out the G100 or Lua?

The Lua and the G100 are both only a few mm shorter than the Kinzu and are too long for me. Good shapes and still small mice by definition.

Perhaps I could try the pyra FIRST as I can get it for around $10 less than the Commatech, although the mini does look exactly like what I'm chasing.
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