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post #21 of 37
There is a flow order though which is clearly what he meant.

At 1GPM flow rate it takes about 260 watts to heat water by 1C so with normal loads on high end GPU's that is about the temp change you can expect for each one or a bit less.
Lower flow rates and the temp change increases.
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Interesting information from everyone! Up to now... I have built mostly single loop, CPU only loops, so this is good learning! Last WC system I built was like 2006, so some things have changed a bit (not the physics, of course.. but the knowledgebase is much larger!). Lots of cool toys around now, that weren't around in the 90's - 2000 era.

Anyone want to buy a D5 cheap? lol!
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Btw, going parallel on gpu blocks is a band-aid for weak pump/s.

says the man with 3 35x pumps. lol
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post #24 of 37
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Downstream? There really is no downstream or upstream because its a closed loop. The water temp will equalize and because you would have enough head pressure it would not matter anyways. That said temp differences would be minor, 1-2 degrees is typical.

Btw, going parallel on gpu blocks is a band-aid for weak pump/s.

Say that to my beauty of a D5 handling 6 blocks and 7 Rads on level 4! not even level 5! biggrin.gif

Temps on the cards even with 100mhz+ never exceeds 47'C and VRMs never go over 45'C.
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post #25 of 37
I have the MCP35X2 running through 2 560mm MONSTAs and 2 360 (180x2) rads with a little under 30 feet of tubing, 5 pairs of QDs, and two blocks. Running full bore it feels barely warm to touch, but I have the optional heatsink attached with a small low speed fan. I imagine without this, it actually runs hot. The pump will hum methodically a little on higher settings, but I do not hear it once it is in my rad box.

My flow meter is broken (no QDs there of course rolleyes.gif), but any setting on my PWM controller will give me similar temps. The pump definitely has plenty of head left for when I SLI. If you want redundancy, get the MCP35X2, if you don't care, the D5 will be enough.
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post #26 of 37
You need to construct more pylons!!! ... er I mean pumps! biggrin.gif

D5 will be enough if you go parallel, if you so choose to go series go with the dual 35x setup. As to the people saying they have a crap ton of stuff on a single D5, yes it's possible but you'll get lower flow rates. Higher flow rate benefits are more closely measured in the radiators as that's where turbulence is an issue, with all the micro channels and pin designs in waterblocks they rarely see benefits from increased flowrates as their designs rely on physical obstruction for turbulence rather than coolant velocity. If you have thermal probes in your loop run a stress test for a while with pumps on the lowest settings, then kick it up to a higher setting and watch the loop temps drop. It might not be a HUGE drop, but it will be there.
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post #27 of 37
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I pulled out my old college Physics books... and started doing some refresh, on fluid dynamics, etc... Looks like head pressure wins here!

I just ordered the Serial terminal for the EK GPU waterblocks, and will wait and see what the new MC(50x/2 looks like... or I might go with the MCP35X/2.

I may keep the D5 for future projects... and the res too. Or maybe I will throw them on Ebay, or here.. lol!

I know the D5 would be fine... but I was also concerned about redundancy, and this solves that issue.

I appreciate everyone's input... seriously! thumb.gif
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Any comments on Rads? What I have should be adequate? I calculated that I would have around 1200-1500 watts of cooling capability... but I could be off on that. Prior to this all my systems were running on a single Black Ice 360... this is my first multi rad loop.

2x Alphacool ST30 280's, and a Alphacool Monsta 80mm 420.

I know loop order doesn't really matter.. but I was planning on doing this:

Pump > CPU > 280 > 280 > GPUs > 420 > Res > Pump just because the layout makes sense in the case. I figured having cooler water hitting the GPU's would be a good thing also.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cgipson1 View Post

Any comments on Rads? What I have should be adequate? I calculated that I would have around 1200-1500 watts of cooling capability... but I could be off on that. Prior to this all my systems were running on a single Black Ice 360... this is my first multi rad loop.

2x Alphacool ST30 280's, and a Alphacool Monsta 80mm 420.

I know loop order doesn't really matter.. but I was planning on doing this:

Pump > CPU > 280 > 280 > GPUs > 420 > Res > Pump just because the layout makes sense in the case. I figured having cooler water hitting the GPU's would be a good thing also.

How much rad thickness clearance do you have, and what kind of noise levels can you tolerate.
Edited by ZytheEKS - 3/5/14 at 5:56am
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Again, how much rad thickness clearance do you have, and what kind of noise levels can you tolerate.

Rad thickness clearance? Please define! (distance between Rads and Fans?) If so, these Rads have about a 1/2"-5/8" of clearance. Dead space seems minimal No room in the case for additional spacers.

I am running push-pull config on all... fans are Rosewill Hyperboreas (1300 max RPM - SP is around 2.76 at max with 89cfm (specs). They move air really well through those rads... and are amazing quiet even maxed out.

I tried some B-Gears Blasters... hated them in testing (loud... rattles and clicks.. whines... bad leds, and even had one that wobbled.) I decided to stick with the Rosewills. I have had two of those running in another system (with fine filters, pretty restrictive) for over a year with no problems... they seem like great fans. When needed, I can run them wide open without blowing eardrums, lol!

The 140mm high SP selection is small... when you want quiet also.

I guess this was a silly question on my part... too many variables!
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