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What keyboard to replace old wireless Logitech?

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Hi everyone, I am wondering what new keyboard i should get. My current keyboard is the keyboard from the Logitech MK250 wireless. I LOVE the feel of the keys on it, not mushy, have a very nice resistance until it activates, and have a near perfect amount of travel (want a bit more)
I ask, because:
1. I want a back-light
2. i want a more comfortable/ bigger keyboard as I find myself bumping 2 keys at once frequently
3. I want wired, as sometimes i get interference and random keys are typed for seemingly no reason.
It will primarily be used for gaming and typing, so I'm guessing brown key-switches?
Media keys are not important, but I don't mind them. I am currently looking at the Logitech G710+, as I already have the G930 headset and the Mx518 mouse, so i don't end up having to install more software.
The one thing that bothered me was that when I went to one of my local stores to try out the mech. keys, I didn't like it, because it felt too 'mushy'. The browns were by far the best, but I would have liked slightly less travel and more resistance. The keys themselves were also really wobbly, are all mech. keyboards like that, or was it just the tester?

A great place to check the prices and availability in my country (New Zealand) would have to be here
post #2 of 7
I've had a Ducky dk9008 G2 (Cherry Black) or about a week. Sunday I happened to be in a Best buy and I went over to the gaming keyboard section to look over the G710+ to see how it compared.

It seemed pretty similar since it has Cherry Browns. I did notice that it was easier to push down on the keys and it has slightly less distance before it bottoms out. Its certainly decent enough to me, I could get used to it much easier than going back to any rubber dome keyboard now.

You can also pick up O rings to reduce the key travel for whatever keyboard you get.
post #3 of 7
Hm...less travel, more resistance and saying the Browns are too mushy means the Browns may not actually be for you. You might be more comfortable with Blue switches (more defined actuation point, slightly more resistance, but makes clicky sounds) or Clear switches (more resistance than Blue switches, but doesn't have the clickiness). I think a keyboard with MX Clear might be best, but the problem becomes options. You don't have many options in that space. The best option would likely be the Code keyboard (backlit, clear switches), but it's OOS, and even if it were in stock, shipping would destroy any value proposition (quick google search shows something like $50 USD for shipping on top of the standard pricing).

So passing that, you're down to the other three switches. Since you want just a little more travel, you probably won't like Red or Black switches. It's up to you to try Blue and Brown switches to see which one suits your fancy. Looking at the website linked, it looks like the G710+ is your best bet. However, while the wobbly keys you felt on the tester are probably unique to that unit, they keycaps aren't exactly the sturdiest, but so long as you don't treat them too harshly and only try to remove them using a keycap remover, then you should be okay. I'd recommend other mainstream options, such as CM's offerings, but they seem to be more expensive.

I would also advise you to look at offerings from Ducky and MaxKeyboards. I'm aware both at least have some vendors in Australia, but I don't know if that translates well to New Zealand. If the Ducky can be had for a reasonable price (vs. the G710+), then I'd advise to go that route instead. The Maxkeyboard option is ONLY if it's cheaper than the G710+.
post #4 of 7
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Yeah, the green and clear keys did feel the best on the tester that I tried, but the trouble is trying to find a good keyboard with them on here in NZ for a decent price. I didn't really like the feel of the blue keys, the clacking felt really weird. There are Ducky Shine III's and others here, and they aren't much more than the G710+, so that is an option. I'm not sure if there are any MaxKeyboards though. We really do get shafted prices here for some components... it really sucks.
post #5 of 7

Throwing my vote in for the G710. I came from "an old wireless logitech", and I have loved the transition. It really has changed my keyboarding experience, and overall enjoyment of computing. I love it. 

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post #6 of 7
In that case, go ahead and check out the Ducky's, while keeping the Logitechs in mind. Remember that any percieved difference in quality will likely be made up for by Logitech's warranty policy. I suspect that if you do get into mechanical keyboards, you'll likely be itching for that MX Clear board before long. Makes for an interesting debate of whether or not you think this keyboard will be the end-all, be-all mechanical keyboard. If you plan on buying one and being done with it, you may just want to take the leap and get the Code keyboard. depending on how much more you liked the MX Green/Clear experience over the Browns.

And yes, you guys get absolutely bent over in a lot of cost of living metrics; my friend's build was relatively similar to mine, but he paid 1.4x the price. But at least the climate is usually nice (earthquakes none withstanding).
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Yeah, i do want this KB to suit me for a long time (hopefully), I will ask my local PC hardware store to pull out a 710+, and I'll ask whether they have a Ducky and compare the feel of them. If all goes well, I might have a new mech. KB in a couple of weeks, depending if I can justify spending another ~$170 on a new KB. If not, then it'll go to a new screen (maybe). I live up in the middle of the north island, so I haven't got any earthquakes here:thumb:, I do find that some prices are fair, AMD GPU's are cheaper here than in the US at the moment (I think), and ram isn't too bad for popular models. PSU's are rip off, same with CPU's and mobo's. I was very tempted to buy from the states for those things, but I'm glad I didn't, as I've been playing a PSU lottery at the moment, RMA with coil whine, received the incorrect model as a replacement, and my current one is very loud, with a rattly fan.mad.gif
Edited by James4832 - 3/4/14 at 4:48pm
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