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This is why air>water cooling solutions.....

My 4 year old D5 Vario pump disagrees with you. biggrin.gif

OP: I believe the H220 had a well known problem on the pump, I'm sure you'll get it replaced.
    
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RMA process started, H220 backlogged atm frown.gif
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This is why air>water cooling solutions.....

Yeah no... if you like loud, hot systems then maybe.
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I've had air coolers fail on me too and cause issues with overheating, but I would agree that the risk is slightly higher sometimes. I wonder what is less likely to kill a cpu though a heatsink with dead fans or a water cooler with a dead pump. My guess is they are fairly equal at that level and neither are efficient nor will either immediately kill a cpu. Just become ineffective. That's my educated guess anyways.
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I've had air coolers fail on me too and cause issues with overheating, but I would agree that the risk is slightly higher sometimes. I wonder what is less likely to kill a cpu though a heatsink with dead fans or a water cooler with a dead pump. My guess is they are fairly equal at that level and neither are efficient nor will either immediately kill a cpu. Just become ineffective. That's my educated guess anyways.

A failed fan on a large metal heat sink still offers a lot of surface area to dissipate heat. Heck, with sufficient case air flow around it, you can get away w/o a primary CPU fan if you keep loads light. Water block with a failed pump, not so much.

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This is why air>water cooling solutions.....

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A failed fan on a large metal heat sink still offers a lot of surface area to dissipate heat. Heck, with sufficient case air flow around it, you can get away w/o a primary CPU fan if you keep loads light. Water block with a failed pump, not so much.

Greg

That's why you hook up a fail safe if the pump RPM reads 0.
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RMA process started, H220 backlogged atm frown.gif

Good to hear Swiftech'll be replacing it. Sorry to hear it's backlogged.
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This is why air>water cooling solutions.....
Using the same logic, you could claim that onboard graphics are better every time a high end graphic card fails or breaks down.

For those of us who want performance on CPU and/or GPU, and silence, air cooling is not even an option.

On top of that, everyone who tried water cooling has stuck to it. Once you got coolant in your veins, you can never go back to those ridiculous looking, loud, low performance air sinks.

For every one guy who posts his problem here, there are 200 more who don't post because they don't get a problem.
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A failed fan on a large metal heat sink still offers a lot of surface area to dissipate heat. Heck, with sufficient case air flow around it, you can get away w/o a primary CPU fan if you keep loads light. Water block with a failed pump, not so much.

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Your computer will shut off before any real damage is caused anyways, so honestly both are "safe" to have if something fails
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A failed fan on a large metal heat sink still offers a lot of surface area to dissipate heat. Heck, with sufficient case air flow around it, you can get away w/o a primary CPU fan if you keep loads light. Water block with a failed pump, not so much.

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If you do it right, as OP did, neither the water pump, nor the air fan failure will ever cause any damage because they are both hooked to the.mobo cpu header and the box shuts down due to fan read error.
And if you do it wrong either way, the box still shuts down before it gets too hot.

The main risk of water cooling is a leak while the box is on. But that won't happen if you are fairy careful. It's never happened to just about everyone on here. But the risk is still there.
Just like driving a race car I guess. Performance and fun comes with it's risk.
Some might have the stomack for it, some might not. This certainly doesn't mean it's the bad way to cool your box.
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A failed fan on a large metal heat sink still offers a lot of surface area to dissipate heat. Heck, with sufficient case air flow around it, you can get away w/o a primary CPU fan if you keep loads light. Water block with a failed pump, not so much.

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For reference, my GPU water blocks alone (without any flow or water) keep my r9 290s at 35-40c when idling. 

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