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Heya peeps.

I got those Upgrade sences thingeling biggrin.gif

And sinds i have been playing a new awsome Processer heavy depending game called : Space Engineers thumb.gifhttp://store.steampowered.com/app/244850/

And there are just a few of those games out there i encountered some form of CPU performance that was Touching my limit.
Nothing drasticly tho...



I would not upgrade my pc for just 1 game (even tho im realy liking this last game i play lately.
I stil havent been able to set a nice overclock above 3.5/3.6/3.7 higher is garanteed Bluescreen.



And for this i look at new motherboards, thinking if it would be worth it to upgrade that part...... rolleyes.gif
As im currently using a ASrock AM3 870 Extreme 3 board.

i was just browsing in this topics for higly recommend looking boards
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

And when clicking on Asrock , i see this 990FX fatality board with a 12+2 Phase count O.o

After searching a store and finding it , i see its actualy quite nicely priced (125 euro)

While saber Took and Formule V boards with a 990FX socket are higher priced
and the most simple upgrade like a ASRock 990FX Extreme3 wich for me is the same board but just a higher chipset
Are only 30/40 euro cheaper then the Fatality version.

I find this quite interesting, and id like some other opinions about this tought of upgrading to that =)




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Definitely not worth it to spend that much money just to upgrade the mb. Dont upgrade the mb unless you plan to upgrade the CPU as well. Even if a new board allowed you to get a few hundred more mhz the difference wont be very much.
    
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Definitely not worth it to spend that much money just to upgrade the mb. Dont upgrade the mb unless you plan to upgrade the CPU as well. Even if a new board allowed you to get a few hundred more mhz the difference wont be very much.

I completely agree because if the games are pushing the limit of your cpu than most likely will still push the limits with a new board. Nothing is guaranteed. You might have reached a wall on your overclock and may not be able to overclock it any farther.

I would only get a new board if you can get a new cpu with it or a new cpu down the road a month or two
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post #4 of 18
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Wel im looking at this motherboard upgrade with Future CPU + RAM upgrade in mind.
Sinds my current motherboard (im not 100% sure) looks like i cannot use faster ram then 1333mhz
Also no AM3+ socket.

That together with better overclocking abilities.
Thats my reasons for upgrading.


Either that or not at all.
Because honestly im very pleased with my Pc, my videocard is doing what i want it to do.


And perhaps i forgot to mention that my CPU Can unlock to a X6 , its just generating too much heat. And i also think my current board was just not *save* to overclock it as a x6 duo the extra heat generated by the extra core.
(mean better cooling i know)

But VRM upgradeing by buying a new motherboard viable?


Its more then just Upgrading a motherboard rolleyes.gif
I like to learn overclocking, and my pc is just fine.

FOr the games, they run fine at the moment. But I would be able to see a slight difference in a overclock. Wich is fun if u ask me tongue.gif
Im not asking for garantees but i know what my chip could do. BUt it is being hold back by other parts like motherboard/ ram/ Cpu cooler.

And i like upgrading 1 item at the time wink.gif
following by more ofcourse , its just how i like changing my sytem
Edited by Barbecuesaus - 3/4/14 at 8:32am
     
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post #5 of 18
after am3+ production stops it will all start to go UP in price.

Just hold out until the day you want to upgrade.
post #6 of 18
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Hmm perhaps your right. You all have good points

Can u recommend something on a question: What about be best upgrade today as in Motherboard + CPU.
Im also reading more about AMD is not pushing better CPU's out anymore mad.gif


Its just i got a upgrading idea in mind.
And its just a option with a pricetag , if its interesting enough i might be tempted to do so.
Edited by Barbecuesaus - 3/4/14 at 8:48am
     
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Well when i said dont upgrade your mb unless youre getting a new cpu as well. What i really meant is dont upgrade unless youre switching to at least intel haswell/z87. Any less is not worth it.
    
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well, the cpu's in terms of raw power I would say are neck and neck.

the way they use this power is different.

Intel has more power PER core on each of 4 cores whether you have HT or not.

AMD has all their power spread across as many as 8 cores, and happens to use more wattage and cost less up front.

The general idea of what is happening, games are starting to use more cores more efficiently.

whether that helps the game you play currently or not I think is what is relevant.

It may benefit you to make the switch to Intel for your game, but you'll have to make some changes to your windows install first, or you could do a drop in to an AMD 8320 with little to no extra preparations to OS. but that route is probably the same PER CORE performance, youll just have twice the cores.

I say wait.
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Yeah thats right.

But u rarely see games that are developed for multicore pc's
some but i dont realy play most AAA titles.

I play a lot of indie games and generaly i encounter a lot of badly scripted engines. But the games and the idea's are so awsome.

So in the best case scenario im running a well optimized indie game that proble doesnt use more then 2 cores biggrin.gif



If i need more cores i can unlock my cpu to a x6 and can run it stable without Overclock.
I can overclock as x4 til about 3,6Ghz

Not that much but im reaching a heat limit after 3,6 tongue.gif


As i mentioned this is my first built PC and ofcourse i learn more things and figure i wish i built my pc slightly different =) One of those components is the MB
But im also starting to look into intels direction.

Extra cores might be nice for recording video's and editing them (on amateur level )
Also something i didnt built my pc for at first. But i changed i started doing that aswell.


Its just a shame to have such a lovely CPU and not being able to get more out of it mad.gif
I think that is the main reason im itching to buy a new motherboard.
     
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You asked for advice, thats our advice. Buying another amd board (especially in your situation with AMDs very weak per core power compared to intels) is not a worthwhile buy. What you do is up to you though smile.gif
    
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