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Poll Results: Which is more fun playing as a thief, Skyrim or Thief

Poll expired: Mar 31, 2014  
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    Skyrim
  • 26% (9)
    Thief
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post #1 of 30
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So playing a bit of Thief and love to play the Rogue in Skyrim, which one do you have more fun playing?
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Thief is too limited, linear, and consolized, I get zero enjoyment out of it. Skyrim on the other hand is awesome especially with mods. I prefer to make my own stealth class that's similar to Nightblade (daggers or archery, and then sneak/lockpicking/pickpocketing/illusion/alteration). Plus I prefer the Dark Brotherhood questline to most others in the game.
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Thief is easily one of the worst games I've ever had the misfortune of playing. Definitely a disgrace to the stealth genre.
Skyrim's stealth my be OP but at least it functions better than Thiefs. Funny stuff.
Also like Bored said, playing a stealthy type character in Skyrim can go various ways. Tons of different class builds for a lot of variety, something Thief completely lacks.

So with that, I'd play a Rogue in Skyrim anyway over touching Thief. I can't believe there are people who enjoy such torture. Perhaps they just don't know there are better/actual good games out there??
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Skyrim has a jump button.

Thief doesn't.

Q.E.D.
/argument



EDIT: Yes Skyrim has some massive mechanics problems, but it's not "on rails" like Thief is. It's not a bad game, but there isn't enough freedom to make it good.
Edited by brucethemoose - 3/5/14 at 11:39am
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Skyrim has a jump button.

Thief doesn't.

Q.E.D.
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EDIT: Yes Skyrim has some massive mechanics problems, but it's not "on rails" like Thief is. It's not a bad game, but there isn't enough freedom to make it good.

There's much more wrong with Thief than just the lack of a jump button. I wish Valve made it mandatory for all Steam games to have a demo, in this case so that people could see how consolized Thief is.
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*Every AAA game.

On the other hand, this is a golden age for independent/small publisher games.

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You do also have a point. People have become complacent, they accept the rubbish games making headlines while wonderful hidden gems get ignored completely frown.gif

Thief is one of those gems, 2 other extremely under-rated games I absolutely loved were Binary Domain, and Remember Me. Both were fantastic games, but like thief, were destroyed by reviews and therefor nobody (talking about the majority of gamers) gave them a shot. Gunner has made it clear he romanticizes the original Thiefs, nothing they could have released would have lived up to the unrealistic expectations he had built up in his mind.
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well both skyrim and thief are crap compared too there originals in there series but i would have too say if you want too play a game as a thief then play thief you cant really compare skyrim to thief as the 2 games are way different from each other and skyrim don't have much to do with being a thief sure you can pick locks and stuff but there is hardly any stealth smile.gif
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You do also have a point. People have become complacent, they accept the rubbish games making headlines while wonderful hidden gems get ignored completely frown.gif

Thief is one of those gems, 2 other extremely under-rated games I absolutely loved were Binary Domain, and Remember Me. Both were fantastic games, but like thief, were destroyed by reviews and therefor nobody (talking about the majority of gamers) gave them a shot. Gunner has made it clear he romanticizes the original Thiefs, nothing they could have released would have lived up to the unrealistic expectations he had built up in his mind.

90% of gaming "reviews" are... summed up in a few words not appropriate for OCN's sensitive viewers.

IMHO RPS is still pretty honest, watching them bash ESO with ads for the game plastered all over their site made me lol. And though they were critical, they did like the new Thief.

Yes, people get very grumpy when sequels aren't just updated continuations of the original.
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I think you are taking the "consolization" thing a bit far. There's nothing wrong with a on-rails game as long as it's done right.

Yes, though in my opinion Thief isn't such a game. It shouldn't be on-rails in the first place, seeing as how the franchise wasn't like that originally.
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Welcome to every game past 2005?

Majority of mainstream games? Yes. Every game? Not quite... not yet. Also I'd say 2007-2008 were the main years where the "dumbing down so that everyone could play" process became popular. I think Call of Duty 4 started it.
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Gunner has made it clear he romanticizes the original Thiefs, nothing they could have released would have lived up to the unrealistic expectations he had built up in his mind.

There's nothing unrealistic about hoping Thief ended up having the same brilliance seen in the first two games, seen in Deus Ex: Human Revolution which is from the same team, or seen Dishonored. I expected Thief to be a good, open stealth game like the ones before it, though I did not expect it to be a good Thief game since all of the gameplay teasers before launch suggested this. What's unrealistic about this? You don't know. Here's the answer: nothing.

I guess if you're trying to say that I should have expected Thief to be a dumbed down console game with mediocre attention to detail and with no material to deliberate over, you'd actually have some merit since that does describe most games today. However Eidos Montreal has only developed one single player multiplatform game before Thief; and it was Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which is not an overly gimped generic console game like Thief is.

I see that Eidos Montreal let go of a considerable number of their staff. Let's hope that only includes the people responsible for Thief being so much different and so much less than their previous game.
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