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Poll Results: Which is more fun playing as a thief, Skyrim or Thief

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    Skyrim
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    Thief
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post #11 of 30
Ignore these trashy reviews on gaming sites and overly biased opinions on OCN. If you don't take these comments on OCN with a grain of salt, you would never buy any games or hardware because one is always inferior in some major way and that's somehow a deal breaker in every aspect according to some random poster on the internet. People need to stop trying to push people so hard with their OPINION. Here is my own opinion on the two, take it how you want I'm not trying to sway you one way or another.

I for one am really enjoying Thief so far, and I'v put over 8 hours of play into it so far. As for Thief vs Thief guild Skyrim, its apples to oranges and I'll try to explain why.

Thief is meant to be played without confrontations and staying hidden while taking your time. Skyrim is open to what you want to do, thus being no real correct way of playing which is also great. But this usually means you are being a thief because you need some quick money for other aspects of game-play and not because breaking into a mansion is part of a thrilling story. In fact, Skyrim rather dry as you can easily walk up to anyone and then crouch which almost instantly hides your presence and pickpocket them. In Thief, if your even seen at all during a heist they will try to hunt you down and kill you (which only takes 2-3 hits!) so stealth actually matters.

Those E3 game play videos showing how "easy" the game is and how seemingly dumb the AI are is over exaggerated. Once you'r playing, it is allot more realistic than that you saw in some game play video done by someone who knew exactly how to pull off that one particular heist.

Skyrim thief guild story vs the game Thief, now that's easily going to go to the game Thief (my opinion) as that's the entirety of the game and the main feature while on Skyrim it is a fun side quest to enjoy alongside the main story among other things.

Both games are great fun, if you had to chose which one game to purchase though, I'd say Skyrim due to more replay value (my opinion) as there's so many more aspects of the game to enjoy other than stealing loot and main story. I don't think i'll be running through Thief any time soon once I complete it as it's linear (but good), but will probably run through it again later when the mood strikes me. Overall, i'm happy with my purchase of Thief and I can recommend it.
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Ignore these trashy reviews on gaming sites and overly biased opinions on OCN. If you don't take these comments on OCN with a grain of salt, you would never buy any games or hardware because one is always inferior in some major way and that's somehow a deal breaker in every aspect according to some random poster on the internet. People need to stop trying to push people so hard with their OPINION. Here is my own opinion on the two, take it how you want I'm not trying to sway you one way or another.

I for one am really enjoying Thief so far, and I'v put over 8 hours of play into it so far. As for Thief vs Thief guild Skyrim, its apples to oranges and I'll try to explain why.

Thief is meant to be played without confrontations and staying hidden while taking your time. Skyrim is open to what you want to do, thus being no real correct way of playing which is also great. But this usually means you are being a thief because you need some quick money for other aspects of game-play and not because breaking into a mansion is part of a thrilling story. In fact, Skyrim rather dry as you can easily walk up to anyone and then crouch which almost instantly hides your presence and pickpocket them. In Thief, if your even seen at all during a heist they will try to hunt you down and kill you (which only takes 2-3 hits!) so stealth actually matters.

Those E3 game play videos showing how "easy" the game is and how seemingly dumb the AI are is over exaggerated. Once you'r playing, it is allot more realistic than that you saw in some game play video done by someone who knew exactly how to pull off that one particular heist.

Skyrim thief guild story vs the game Thief, now that's easily going to go to the game Thief (my opinion) as that's the entirety of the game and the main feature while on Skyrim it is a fun side quest to enjoy alongside the main story among other things.

Both games are great fun, if you had to chose which one game to purchase though, I'd say Skyrim due to more replay value (my opinion) as there's so many more aspects of the game to enjoy other than stealing loot and main story. I don't think i'll be running through Thief any time soon once I complete it as it's linear (but good), but will probably run through it again later when the mood strikes me. Overall, i'm happy with my purchase of Thief and I can recommend it.

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Judging a video game is a very difficult thing to simply do. A lot of whats involved is subjective viewpoints based on art and lore while objectively we can look at mechanics, maps, and more

Please keep the drama out of this, comments like yours will end up with a thread lock and then no one gets to speak their viewpoints from the question asked by the OP
    
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Judging a video game is a very difficult thing to simply do. A lot of whats involved is subjective viewpoints based on art and lore while objectively we can look at mechanics, maps, and more

Please keep the drama out of this, comments like yours will end up with a thread lock and then no one gets to speak their viewpoints from the question asked by the OP

It's a really strange question anyway... the two games are truly apples to oranges.
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It's a really strange question anyway... the two games are truly apples to oranges.

We do it all day for Intel Vs. AMD, why not games? lol Strange yeah I agree with that

or maybe Geforce to Firepro would be a better comparison...I digress
    
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Can we try and refrain from replying to posts with images. This isn't Reddit. wink.gif

You really can't compare the two games. Personally I find Thief to be a good game but a bit too slow paced for me and I find it a bit restrictive. Skyrim gives a lot more freedom and allows you to do what you want to do. While in Thief there is some freedom but there is definitely a set few ways the developer intended for you to deal with certain situations.

Both games are fun and very different, Skyrim is my favourite though.
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if you haven't played the rest of the games in the series then both games are really good but once you start looking at the other games in the series you see that they arnt as good as others in the series

iv played both games and i got too say that the new thief game isn't as good as some of the older games in the series but it is a very enjoyable game and i would recommend it too anyone who hasn't played it already smile.gif

I hated skyrim because it was boring basically all you did was the same thing over and over again but i loved morrowind and oblivion biggrin.gif

the biggest issue with both game is the AI is really cheap you can kill mostly everything in the game with out taking any damage i played both games with the difficulty on max and its just too easy i think game devs need to make games harder or add harder difficulty levels to games you shouldn't be able to make it all the way too the end of the game with out being killed not on your first try anyway
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I just had to delete quite a few heated argument posts. Guys, keep it civil, don't demean other's viewpoints.

Like TheReciever said above, please keep the drama out of this.
 
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if you haven't played the rest of the games in the series then both games are really good but once you start looking at the other games in the series you see that they arnt as good as others in the series

iv played both games and i got too say that the new thief game isn't as good as some of the older games in the series but it is a very enjoyable game and i would recommend it too anyone who hasn't played it already smile.gif

I hated skyrim because it was boring basically all you did was the same thing over and over again but i loved morrowind and oblivion biggrin.gif

the biggest issue with both game is the AI is really cheap you can kill mostly everything in the game with out taking any damage i played both games with the difficulty on max and its just too easy i think game devs need to make games harder or add harder difficulty levels to games you shouldn't be able to make it all the way too the end of the game with out being killed not on your first try anyway

If you only did the same thing over and over again in Skyrim, then it's because that's what you chose to do. As for me, I don't do that, since it probably would get boring. Skyrim is one of the most diverse games ever made, as are the rest of the TES games, and it's not any more repetitive than Oblivion/Morrowind. Any linear game like Thief (yes, even the classics) will have far more repetition than TES. It's hard to think of a game that's less repetitive than TES. At least Skyrim doesn't reuse locations the way Oblivion and Morrowind do, nor does it have reused dialogue like Morrowind, so it actually has improvements in this regard.

Skyrim shows major improvements over both Oblivion and Morrowind, particularly in the level design. It is way more detailed, much more dense, it's more alive, and it has far more things to do. It doesn't reuse dungeons and other cells like Oblivion and Morrowind do. Let's not forget the static NPCs in Morrowind who share the same unvoiced dialogue, and the inferior combat systems in Oblivion and Morrowind. Stealth gameplay is much more functional in Skyrim too.

The campaign/story of Skyrim is what's clearly a step down compared to the old ones, though the vastly improved open world and lasting appeal make up for it in my opinion. Dawnguard also directly addresses this issue by adding a new story/campaign that's closer to the level seen in Oblivion and Morrowind. The classics also had a few more skills like medium armor, acrobatics, etc, though those aren't game changers and they're really minor. The classics also had a stronger risk/reward system when creating new characters (from a statistical point of view). Skyrim on legendary mode (which was added with a DLC) isn't any easier than Oblivion really, at least not at low level.

So Skyrim does introduce a significant improvements over Oblivion/Morrowind. There's an apples to apples comparison. Leaving that behind, once you start piling on mods for Skyrim, it really pulls away from the rest of the franchise (since there's just better mods available for Skyrim than the others). There are more character builds in modded Skyrim, and even more dimensions to the gameplay as if there wasn't enough already (survival, with the likes of Frostfall and basic needs). Mods can also raise the difficulty and add back the same class/birthsign system from Oblivion and Morrowind.

When comparing Thief (2014) to the first two however, you'll just find that gameplay features were taken away and none were really added back (except for contextual window opening I guess). Difficulty was lowered, there's no longer a need to scout for paths to your objectives (level design doesn't incorporate such gameplay either). The scale brought down, the atmosphere is more bland/generic. The only things it does better are graphics, animations, and the smoother movement, for obvious (technological) reasons. It doesn't really do anything better than its predecessors, while Skyrim does.
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