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hynix memory is amazing and i am really excited to see what this card can do. My classy ti's with hynix memory were amazing. One did 8600mhz in benches and the other 8400mhz. Hynix does seem to be better for bench scores right now so I am happy they used hynix.
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I actually want to argue if Samsung is better than Hynix..???
Aside from Samsung tighter timings rumours, what concrete proof do we have to state that Samsung is better than Hynix.


Also, from these slides you posted
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kkxjuw2a0n421v/R9%20290X%20LIGHTNING%20Infokit%201_0%20-%20PDF%20Version.pdf

Check out slide 39,

Apparently Msi Overclocked the 290X to 1400Mhz at 1.4V.

Now what do the people complaining & claiming that there Trixx / DCUII / etc are in the same league as the lightning have to say about...??


Also, Hawaii at 1400Mhz is going to rip the benchmarks.

The only proof I have is from posts from owners here on the forums, and what they are able to achieve for clock speeds. From what I have seen Eplida = 1600-1700Mhz - Hynix = 1700-1800 - Samsung = 1800+ True, there isn't any article I have found that does an in-depth look at video memory. All we have is our fellow forum members and their experiences.

Agreed on slide 39 - It's easy for people to dismiss cards like Lightnings and classifieds, but once you own one, you will never go back to a run of the mill card. Looking forward to some people on these fourms hitting 1400MHz + on their 290X Lightnings thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by strong island 1 View Post

hynix memory is amazing and i am really excited to see what this card can do. My classy ti's with hynix memory were amazing. One did 8600mhz in benches and the other 8400mhz. Hynix does seem to be better for bench scores right now so I am happy they used hynix.

Agree the 780 Classy I bought last week has Hynix, & by changing the the memory voltage from 1.6V to 1.64V in the classy tool, I can run my memory at 1927 Mhz stable in Valley / Heaven / Firestrike regular & Extreme.

Btw I do not get how this 8600 Mhz stuff works.

From what I understand GPU memory is quad pumped, so if I see 1927 Mhz in GPU-Z, the quad should be 1927 Mhz x 4 = 7708 Mhz.
But your 8600 Mhz would be 8600/4 = 2150 Mhz.
I knew the Ti s had faster memory than regular 780s, but I do not think it was that much faster.
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The only proof I have is from posts from owners here on the forums, and what they are able to achieve for clock speeds. From what I have seen Eplida = 1600-1700Mhz - Hynix = 1700-1800 - Samsung = 1800+ True, there isn't any article I have found that does an in-depth look at video memory. All we have is our fellow forum members and their experiences.

I must be pretty lucky with my Classy then. My Samsung FTW did 1800 Mhz, while the Hynix Classy does 1927 Mhz.

I think I am going to try & debunk the looser timings myth today, by the running Valley at same Core clock/ Memory Clock on my Hynix Classy as I did on my 780 Ftw & see if I get the same results.

Will post in you Valley Benchmark thread on AT, as you already have my previous 780 Ftw score in the spreadsheet.
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Agree the 780 Classy I bought last week has Hynix, & by changing the the memory voltage from 1.6V to 1.64V in the classy tool, I can run my memory at 1927 Mhz stable in Valley / Heaven / Firestrike regular & Extreme.

Btw I do not get how this 8600 Mhz stuff works.

From what I understand GPU memory is quad pumped, so if I see 1927 Mhz in GPU-Z, the quad should be 1927 Mhz x 4 = 7708 Mhz.
But your 8600 Mhz would be 8600/4 = 2150 Mhz.
I knew the Ti s had faster memory than regular 780s, but I do not think it was that much faster.
I must be pretty lucky with my Classy then. My Samsung FTW did 1800 Mhz, while the Hynix Classy does 1927 Mhz.

I think I am going to try & debunk the looser timings myth today, by the running Valley at same Core clock/ Memory Clock on my Hynix Classy as I did on my 780 Ftw & see if I get the same results.

Will post in you Valley Benchmark thread on AT, as you already have my previous 780 Ftw score in the spreadsheet.

ya they were at 2150mhz using your formula and the other was at 2100mhz. I have a ton of screenshots and it was documented in the owner's club. I am talking benching though. Those speeds were stable in firestrike, extreme and valley. I haven't gamed on my ti's at all.

I was just saying that people should be excited to see hynix on this card. I can't wait to see what it can do.

I was doing about 7400mhz on my 780's with samsung memory.
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ya they were at 2150mhz using your formula and the other was at 2100mhz. I have a ton of screenshots and it was documented in the owner's club. I am talking benching though. Those speeds were stable in firestrike, extreme and valley. I haven't gamed on my ti's at all.

I was just saying that people should be excited to see hynix on this card. I can't wait to see what it can do.

I was doing about 7400mhz on my 780's with samsung memory.

I have been following your Ln2 adventures in the Kinpin thread.

Please, I am not doubting the authenticity of your results.
What monitoring software reads speed by the 7000, 8000 formula. Please tell me.

I use GPU-Z & Precision X, GPU-Z is usually 1800-1900, Precision X usually 3000 and such.

I am not aware of a monitoring software reporting speeds in the 7000 - 8000 range.
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I must be pretty lucky with my Classy then. My Samsung FTW did 1800 Mhz, while the Hynix Classy does 1927 Mhz.

I think I am going to try & debunk the looser timings myth today, by the running Valley at same Core clock/ Memory Clock on my Hynix Classy as I did on my 780 Ftw & see if I get the same results.

Will post in you Valley Benchmark thread on AT, as you already have my previous 780 Ftw score in the spreadsheet.

Looking forward to it. Since you own two of the same cards with two different memory brands I urge you to do so. That reminds me, I gotta update that thread today wink.gif
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I have been following your Ln2 adventures in the Kinpin thread.

Please, I am not doubting the authenticity of your results.
What monitoring software reads speed by the 7000, 8000 formula. Please tell me.

I use GPU-Z & Precision X, GPU-Z is usually 1800-1900, Precision X usually 3000 and such.

I am not aware of a monitoring software reporting speeds in the 7000 - 8000 range.

I haven't seen monitoring software that reads that as well, although in advertising specs for some cards they do use it.

Box says 6000mhz gddr5, afterburner reports 3000mhz, gpu-z reports that as 1500mhz. I generally go by gpu-z & list memory speed as 1500mhz when listing clocks (if it was at stock tongue.gif )
    
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Originally Posted by rt123 View Post

I have been following your Ln2 adventures in the Kinpin thread.

Please, I am not doubting the authenticity of your results.
What monitoring software reads speed by the 7000, 8000 formula. Please tell me.

I use GPU-Z & Precision X, GPU-Z is usually 1800-1900, Precision X usually 3000 and such.

I am not aware of a monitoring software reporting speeds in the 7000 - 8000 range.

well then I was at 4300mhz according to precision x. I don't really care if anyone believes me or not. I thought when talking effective speeds 8600mhz would be the correct way to say it no matter what the software is reporting. For gpuz I was at 2150mhz, precision x 4300mhz and effective speed 8600mhz.
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well then I was at 4300mhz according to precision x. I don't really care if anyone believes me or not. I thought when talking effective speeds 8600mhz would be the correct way to say it no matter what the software is reporting. For gpuz I was at 2150mhz, precision x 4300mhz and effective speed 8600mhz.

i believe you, my card would do 2150 in 3dmark as well, 2125 in valley.
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