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Newegg had them last night, Just sayin

Newegg doesnt get my business anymore. Strictly Amazon thanks to PRIME
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Newegg doesnt get my business anymore. Strictly Amazon thanks to newegg price gouging everything they can and supporting mining taxes by making pre built mining rigs for sale.


fixed that for ya.
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fixed that for ya.

Thank you Sz biggrin.gif
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glad i could help.
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If only Amazon didn't charge tax in NC. They just started in (February?) and it sucks. Oh well, I'd rather give money in taxes to my state and pay a little bit extra than give a cent to Scr(n)ewegg.
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I have mine in for testing and I am getting anxious to see what I can do with it... I have been messing around with my testing setup and OS before I get to start though... Limiting my testing time each day
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Originally Posted by Zaid View Post

This has to be a mistake, It would make no sense to voltage lock the lightning at such low voltages. this ruins the whole point of this card. i hope someone people start getting theirs soon so we can see if this is true.
I have gotten mine in for testing and will be looking what I can do with standard Afterburner and then ABX on stock cooler.
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Originally Posted by neliz View Post

Trying to get you guys at least +200mV on AB asap.

edit: unlocked voltages = for extreme overclockers, if you can handle ln2 properly and you know that you void warranty, you can get ABX.

question: why don't you give everyone unlimited voltage:
Answer: because too many people that don't know what to do blow up their GPUs. That and the fact that every 25mV adds about 5 degrees Celcius to the GPU.
Just so everyone knows - ABX is given out by MSI to those who they want to have it, it is not for redistrobution and is unique to the user... If you look back at some of my older stuff you will see that my AfterBurner ( I have been using ABX since before Afterburner was public) was / has been "Ryan Edition" (TGE/Ryan)... Inside the software itself there are identifiers, so if you do get it I would suggest not passing it around if you would every want to request a new version wink.gif
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And.now people are getting mad that they have to void a warranty to get max voltages when they want to use those volts on air. Zzzzzz and you wonder why msi doesn't let everyone have abx. Oops I put 1.85v into my card on air and it melted, can I have a new one please.
I agree with this 100% I hate to say it but I would love to see the release of an unlocked version only for Lightnings and then see the stats on how soon and how many RMAs were requested... Then seeing those cards and inspecting them biggrin.gif :/ I always wonder about that
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All the people wanting fully unlocked voltage. Too much voltage eventually hits the point of diminishing returns. Eventually it doesn't help and makes things worse. Hot enough and cards won't scale anymore, even if running safe temperature. Every lighning card has had a limit on voltage.
Very true - this is the way with all hardware and after that point is hit having the ability to do more is pointless other than being able to kill it
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i agree with both statements. but limiting the voltage to what the reference design limits is too low, especially for a card that's touted as "King of overclocking" .

i defiantly don't think the voltage should be 100% unlocked, but at least allow more voltage compared to reference design. having a very high end GPU made for overclocking being restricted to the same voltage as a reference card makes no sense.
The fact that they make unlimited access available to those who can properly use it is a very responsible way of doing it as many cards would fry and issues would arrise. Since they are working on a higher limit compromise that should be seen as a great thing. Many users who if who had access to ABX/ fully unlocked who think they know what they are doing would likely still fry cards and have issues from it.
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So is the Lightning locked to a lower voltage now? Unless you're 8-pack, kingpin, andre, elmor, sf3d, etc. that is?

Can a "hobbyist" LN2 user get higher voltages without having to go begging someone for a proper AB version?
Nvidia's discrete marketshare actually grew in Q4 compared to AMD. Both companies sold more cards in Q4 than Q3 (as expected due to holiday season) however Nvidia's sales grew 3.6% and AMD's 1.8% = higher NV marketshare after Q4.

It's pretty well known that there are less high end AMD cards being manufactured now than there were two years ago (when Tahiti had launched).
Well a lot of the time its not really locked but the software you have access to doesn't allow for going over X. w/ ABX it is available after installing the software.

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Originally Posted by neliz View Post

We do have some tablets .. those could certainly use some overclocking tongue.gif
I bite my tongue, I have been testing the Primo 81 here...
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I'm just honest man, I like my hardware FAST, Tablets and phones just agitate me.
I bite my tongue a second time, while trying to say everything that that I want upgraded on the Primo tablets... I need to pack and go to HQ and help in that area lol.
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

More like rep. My local microcenter has an MSI rep who I contacted about this. I also tried MSI US customer support but we all know how that will go rolleyes.gif
Local Microcenter or Customer service will never work for you - If you need something in the US regarding something specific you should e-mail the appropriate party ( can be found on the MSI website), for such issues. I would ask neliz for a bit of help if he is willing to assist you wink.gif
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fixed that for ya.
I am just thrown by your "supporting mining taxes" comment :/ ... Just confused how you arrived there...
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post #297 of 301
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Newegg doesnt get my business anymore. Strictly Amazon thanks to PRIME

Unfortunately my stupid state has ruined Prime for me by now charging sales tax on Amazon purchases. Seriously weak. Why should I have to pay sales tax for a company that has no physical presence in my state?
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You have Brick and Mortar store to thank for the rise of the sales tax on online purchases. According to them; "Its not fair"
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So any other 'juicy' information from lightning owners? I read about the bug in the new catalyst beta. Has anyone experienced that yet?
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The beta drivers were giving me hell so I switched back to the 13.12 drivers and everything is all good. I was getting red screens and extreme instability from those beta drivers, which was also the experience of my friend Fugger from XtremeSystems who is also testing the 290X L. He switched back to a different driver and it resolved his issues - One from MSI, which I think was the 13.12 as well. He has found that when overclocking supplying extra grounding seems to help his OC ( He is running 1400 at +300 on his Benching air setup (subzero ducted modded AC unit ) he is pushing 1450 and he is at 1700 on RAM. His 4770K is pushing over 6GHz 3D with a custom cascade LN2 solution. Plus I would say he is a pro at air cooling lol. If it involves modded AC units, ducting, K|ngp|n F1 pot, blow torch, and other electronics I think that is apt lol.
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