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Hi guys,

Just to give you a short background, I am a first year mechanical engineering student at the Jordan University of Science and Technology. I've recently joined the university's Formula SAE team. The competition is due to take place in Silverstone, UK, July of every year, right after the British F1 Grand Prix.

Now I am a gamer, as well as an avid sim-racer, using racing simulations such as rFactor, iRacing and Live For Speed. This is a sponsored event. I am going to be building a racing simulator for driver training, and I get to get my hands dirty, pick all the parts and build the desktop from the ground-up. Could you please review the parts below, and if there are any recommended changes, better parts at lower prices (or slightly higher) and so on, please let me know.

System requirements for the mentioned simulators are fairly low, however, I am looking to run them at at least 60 FPS at a resolution of 5760x1080 across 3 monitors.

Aramex, our sponsor courier, will be purchasing the following parts from Newegg and will take care of the international shipping to Jordan.

AMD FX-6300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286

Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

2x4GB ADATA XPG
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211810

AMD Radeon R9 270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161449

Samsung EVO 120GB SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247

1 TB Western Digital Caviar Blue
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339

ASUS CD/DVD drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Corsair CX600M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139048

NZXT Phantom 410
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146093
post #2 of 55
Seems pretty much perfect to me.

I'd go with a better PSU, the CX600M isn't particularly great and I'd advise against skimping out on the most important part of your rig.

The Seasonic G-550M is currently on offer at Newegg and is a much better unit, it is also modular.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119
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Thanks moderator! Just a few questions:

1) Would you advise I step up to the 650W version of the Seasonic G-Series for this particular build? FX-6300 and R9 270? Or will the 550W version do the trick? I plan to overclock the CPU and GPU later down the road, but no further than their stock voltages.

2) Is the 990FX chipset overkill? Should I drop down to a 970 with 8+2 power phase (e.g. 970A-UD3 / UD3P)?

3) Worth going with 1866MHz RAM, since it is supported by the memory controller?

4) Samsung EVO or Pro?

5) As far as case goes, I'm looking for: cable management + cable holes + ample space behind motherboard tray, HDD cages inverted to side of case + removable, side-window, motherboard cut-out. From what I've seen the NZXT Phantom 410 does all this well... any similar cases worth looking at?

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1) 550W is already more than you need, you could quite happily use a 450W unit and still be fine, if just barely. A 550W would give you the headroom for overclocking.

2) Whether or not it's overkill is really up to you. A 6-core chip does need pretty beefy power delivery if you want to push it and I think the extra $20 or so for the 990FXA-UD3 is worth it, but like I said it's up to you.

3) You won't really notice the difference between 1600 MHz and 1866 MHz memory. If you can find faster memory for a similar price then go for it but I wouldn't spend much extra.

4) EVO, the Pro is a fair bit better but for a budget system the EVO is the best price/perf SSD.

5) The Phantom 410 is a great case. Personally my favourite mid-tower is the Fractal Design Define R4, I love it's clean looks, sound proofing and there is plenty of space inside to work with. The Corsair 400R is also worth a look.

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Great! Thanks for the feedback, keeping the configuration as it is then. I indeed love the Phantom 410, I have a thing for keeping the internals visible, doesn't feel right to lock up those marvelous components out of sight.

Ah, a couple more things I forgot to include

1) Simulator will be using 3 monitors. Do I need an active display-port adapter for Eyefinity? Monitor below has DVI and HDMI

2) Good choice of 3 monitors? ASUS VS248H-P 24". I can't quite make it if it has VESA mounting from the pictures, VESA is a must.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153
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I say it depends on the price difference between the 2 power supplies. Power supplies (in my experience) last forever. Spending a few extra dollars gives you a more powerful one that may be useful on your next build, or if you wanted to add another graphics card. Yes it probably overkill, but if your next build is more demanding, then you might have saved yourself some money. One thing i will emphasis is you do not want power issues.... it was a nightmare for me to figure out what was going wrong with my computer when i upgraded my graphics card and the computer had just enough power to boot... sometimes.
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I say it depends on the price difference between the 2 power supplies. Power supplies (in my experience) last forever. Spending a few extra dollars gives you a more powerful one that may be useful on your next build, or if you wanted to add another graphics card. Yes it probably overkill, but if your next build is more demanding, then you might have saved yourself some money. One thing i will emphasis is you do not want power issues.... it was a nightmare for me to figure out what was going wrong with my computer when i upgraded my graphics card and the computer had just enough power to boot... sometimes.

I may have caused some confusion. I meant keeping build as is, with the exception of the power supply. I'm going with the Seasonic 550W.
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I figured as much, I just wanted to toss in my 2 cents. I made the mistake once and I figured id at least say something. For the most part, you should be fine.

Only other thing i'll toss out there is that more wants doesn't mean better. My issue was that my 12v rail didn't have enough amps to support everything on it. It could have had 500 more watts, but if it had the same amps for that rail, i would be in the same position.
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System requirements for the mentioned simulators are fairly low, however, I am looking to run them at at least 60 FPS at a resolution of 5760x1080 across 3 monitors.

I dunno if the Graphics card will support that frame rate across 3 screens, you might have to either crossfire or step up to a higher series 280x, 290, 290x etc and maybe increase wattage on PSU to 650-750w and possibly up CPU to fx 8320
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Alright OP, a few little things.

First off, Im fairly positive you dont need the active displayport adaptor for the new R9 series GPU's. The monitors you want are great, I have purchased 2 for friends and they have had no problems with them.

I would however up your GPU to something a little beefier, something like the R9 280X or a GTX 760/770. I say this because that way you wont have to replace parts as the tech gets more advanced. Plus I've read in a couple places that people have troubles running 60fps with 660ti's. So just to be on the safe side, a beefier GPU would be better.

Other then that, get a CPU cooler (since its on the house) so you can overclock if you need to and call it a day.
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