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Hey all!
Soon I will be helping a friend build a new gaming PC and would like a bit of input into the parts I have chosen. So here it is:

List: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34fN1

Purpose: To play all newly released AAA titles for the foreseeable future.
Games: WoW, Marvel Heroes, TF2, BF4, Titanfall
Budget: He would like to keep it at or around $2000
Resolution: 1080, but would like the option to bump up to 5760x1080 in the future.
OC: He will not be OCing any of this gear. I will tweak the CPU for him. He is not tech savvy

-All will be purchased through the most cost-effective ways so I don't really need any suggestions on where to buy just WHAT to buy.

-The PSU is 850w because he would like to add a second GPU in the future.

-The memory is 2133MHZ because I saw no meaningful difference in price from lower clocked similar sets. (1600 is same price)

So please, any advice you can offer is much appreciated and I thank you for taking the time to respond!
Edited by Moomaster - 3/4/14 at 6:15pm
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- would change the RAM to 8gb x2 instead for less problems with compatibility. i had built a similar rig than this and i had problems with a 4gb x4 ram not booting for some reason. so i ended up replacing it with 8gb x2 instead.

- would change the PSU to something else, even if it is more expensive. toughpower grand is a decent PSU though. maybe a seasonic/superflower as oem should be better.

- maybe a crucial M500 instead of an 840 pro? you want cost-effective right? tongue.gif you can even get a 480GB M500 at abit higher cost than a 256GB 840 pro.

- i would also prefer a sapphire 290 tri-x than a gigabyte 290x because i read that gigabyte has problems with cooling? not sure if it is true though since i dont own a gigabyte r9 290x. 290 tri-x is also $50 cheaper and most likely can be OC'd easily to achieve 290x levels

- lastly, are you guys going to OC the processor? depending on your temps inside the room, i personally dont think you can OC the 4770k at a good level (at least 500mhz maybe?) using a hyper 212. if you prefer single tower air cooler, get at least a Noctua U12S/VenX/Megahalems. If you guys are going to OC the 4770k at 4.2ghz below, I suggest to buy a 4770 instead and an H87 motherboard. its also cheaper!


If I were the one building a $2000 rig, I would build something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34i7P

total cost is still less than $2000, and you can even buy case fans for better cooling (than stock fans) to reach $2000.

also, note that the Xeon is basically a 4770 non-k with 100mhz less clock, lower wattage, and doesn't have integrated graphics. the U12S is just for bling, since I have plenty of $ to spare
Edited by Dyaems - 3/4/14 at 6:15pm
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- would change the RAM to 8gb x2 instead for less problems with compatibility. i had built a similar rig than this and i had problems with a 4gb x4 ram not booting for some reason. so i ended up replacing it with 8gb x2 instead.

- would change the PSU to something else, even if it is more expensive. toughpower grand is a decent PSU though. maybe a seasonic/superflower as oem should be better.

- maybe a crucial M500 instead of an 840 pro? you want cost-effective right? tongue.gif you can even get a 480GB M500 at abit higher cost than a 256GB 840 pro.

- i would also prefer a sapphire 290 tri-x than a gigabyte 290x because i read that gigabyte has problems with cooling? not sure if it is true though since i dont own a gigabyte r9 290x. 290 tri-x is also $50 cheaper and most likely can be OC'd easily to achieve 290x levels

- lastly, are you guys going to OC the processor? depending on your temps inside the room, i personally dont think you can OC the 4770k at a good level (at least 500mhz maybe?) using a hyper 212. if you prefer single tower air cooler, get at least a Noctua U12S/VenX/Megahalems. If you guys are going to OC the 4770k at 4.2ghz below, I suggest to buy a 4770 instead and an H87 motherboard. its also cheaper!


If I were the one building a $2000 rig, I would build something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34i7P

total cost is still less than $2000, and you can even buy case fans for better cooling (than stock fans) to reach $2000.

also, note that the Xeon is basically a 4770 non-k with 100mhz less clock, lower wattage, and doesn't have integrated graphics. the U12S is just for bling, since I have plenty of $ to spare


Hey thanks for the response,

I will switch out the RAM, the price is about the same. Thanks for the suggestion on the SSD as well, can definitely get some more gb/$. I will be doing the OCing on all of it, i'm thinking something mild to get him going and leave some room for further down the road to further OC with a better cooling solution. So some of these things will be needed in the future to try to get the most out of the hardware.
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I saw a video regarding power supply wattage output, that guy had a fully water cooled sli intel based system under full load on GPU and CPU max wattage output was only little over 350 WATTS, His cpu was a 2600K but that tells you something, forgot to mention he had 12 case fans all together and under load and only producing 350WATTS with 2 cards so even adding a third card you be still good with a good 650W power supply.
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Sory to say but the PSU you picked is not very good at all

Its overpriced and ripple goes up to 86,4mv on 100% load which is just a really crappy ripple suppression

You dont even need 850 watts for two video cards as said

If you want 850 watts anyway look at the Cooler Master V850 it should be around the same price if not cheaper

And its a overall much better PSU

Also the WD Blue 1 TB is faster then the Black 1 TB as its newer and uses one plate instead of multiple like the Black does
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i wouldnt want to cf 290 or 290x on air due to wattage etc and i also would go for a 780ti and do away with ssd - as you are on a budget. If your rig is going to be a work rig also then keep the ssd thumb.gif
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Change the SSD to the Evo 250GB, you will save around 60$. Almost as fast, won't notice a difference.

Samsung 250GB Evo 149.99
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE250BW/dp/B00E3W1726/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394017361&sr=8-1&keywords=250+evo
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Sory to say but the PSU you picked is not very good at all

Its overpriced and ripple goes up to 86,4mv on 100% load which is just a really crappy ripple suppression

You dont even need 850 watts for two video cards as said

If you want 850 watts anyway look at the Cooler Master V850 it should be around the same price if not cheaper

And its a overall much better PSU

Also the WD Blue 1 TB is faster then the Black 1 TB as its newer and uses one plate instead of multiple like the Black does

New WD Blacks 1tb uses single plate.
There's actually a lot of speculation about whether or not the 1003FZEX is just the WD10EZEX Blue drive with a Black label stamped on it, which I believe is true.
http://community.wd.com/t5/Desktop-Mobile-Drives/WD1003FZEX-CAVIAR-BLACK-poor-access-time-explained/td-p/658549
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If you want to save some more get an i5, there's no gain with an i7 for gaming ... the currently most comon use for an i7 is for photo/video editing.

Cheers
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What about
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34uQZ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34uQZ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34uQZ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4820K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($304.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Glacer 240L 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($243.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($205.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card ($525.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($152.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($137.97 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2047.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-05 07:44 EST-0500)


I have to explain why lga2011 over lga1150

1.quad channel support
2.avaibility for 6 core cpu(furureproof for gaming)
3.more pcie lanes
4.no meed to delid the cpu in order to overclock passed 4.4ghz on air/clc`s
Edited by PontiacGTX - 3/5/14 at 8:10am
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