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We don't really need to read anything. We already have knowledge of the architecture.

GTX 870M 1344 Kepler Shaders 941 Mhz 192 Memory Bus 5Ghz (Gimped GTX 670) Expect about 20% Slower than a GTX 670

GTX 780M 1536 Kepler Shaders 823 Mhz 256 Memory Bus 5Ghz (Gimped GTX 680) Expect 15% slower than a GTX 680.

GTX 765M 768 Kepler Shaders 850 Mhz 128 Memory Bus 4Ghz (Gimped GT 650 Ti) Expect 20% Slower than a GTX 650 Ti

GTX 860M 640 Maxwell Shaders 1029 Mhz 128 Memory Bus 5Ghz (Full GTX 750 Ti) Expect a full GTX 750 Ti

So take a look at SLi GT 650 Ti's non boost and compare them to a gtx 670. That is roughly what you are looking at.



Edit: Between the 860m and 870m i'd expect it to be rougly a gtx 750 ti vs a gtx 760.

Thanks i was just going to write it up but you saved me the hassle redface.gif
     
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Again, how much do you value battery life? SLI will throw that out the window. You're better off sticking with single GPU unless you want it tethered to the wall outlet most of the time. 4-5 hours of battery life is pretty standard these days, especially for students traveling between classes, and the Aorus will get you half that at best, and that's when it's not doing any gaming. You would be essentially screwed if you need your laptop to for 2 consecutive classes and are unable to find a seat close enough to an outlet, and it's not unusual for that to happen these days with overcrowded classrooms everywhere.

If you're to spend extra money, the new Razer Blade 14" is mighty attractive with i7-4702HQ and GTX 870M with 3200x1800 IGZO touchscreen in a 14" package, and it only weighs around 4.5 lbs. wink.gif

Also, more powerful laptops will come with larger, heavier AC adapters. The difference there may not be much, but it can get annoying.

TBH, I hate Razer products with a passion. Plus I dont see how a 3K Screen will do well on a laptop. And for me at least, Even 512GB will not be enough storage for me. So, thats why I havent mentioned the Razer Blade. Also, yeah I am guessing the Aorus X7 is basically out right now. I guess now its between the MSI GS70, GS60 or any other options you think I should look at. I am a big fan of the Sager's looks and price to performance. I was looking at the Maingear site I saw the Pulse 17, think they will do a refresh of it with 800m GPU's?


EDIT: Scratch that on the Maingear, price to performance on their laptops are horrible.
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Oh, yeah. The OP did said he want to play games on a two hour long bus I believe. If he grab X7 or SLI GPU, the laptop won't survive much with less than hour or half an hour.

No, it was I had to get there 2 hours early because of the bus and hang around one of the Student Lounges. smile.gif
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TBH, I hate Razer products with a passion. Plus I dont see how a 3K Screen will do well on a laptop. And for me at least, Even 512GB will not be enough storage for me. So, thats why I havent mentioned the Razer Blade. Also, yeah I am guessing the Aorus X7 is basically out right now. I guess now its between the MSI GS70, GS60 or any other options you think I should look at. I am a big fan of the Sager's looks and price to performance. I was looking at the Maingear site I saw the Pulse 17, think they will do a refresh of it with 800m GPU's?


EDIT: Scratch that on the Maingear, price to performance on their laptops are horrible.
No, it was I had to get there 2 hours early because of the bus and hang around one of the Student Lounges. smile.gif


Settle for the GTX 860m it won't be that far behind the 870m to be honest.
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Settle for the GTX 860m it won't be that far behind the 870m to be honest.

I'm still not convinced, I had both a single 670 and SLI 670's and they were great cards, on the other hand I havent owned a 750Ti, what would that be in the 600 Series, a 660(non Ti)? And with you guys saying that the 870m is about 20% less powerful than a 670, that would be a little better than a 660Ti I would think, because IIRC, the 670 was only about 2-5% less powerful than the 680 (At least at launch of the card).
 
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Just for reference, this is basically what I am carrying around right now. I think this is the same model.

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Where did you get those numbers. The 765 sli was around the 780 mark in performance. The 870 should perform along the same lines as the 780 and will be a fair margin ahead of the 860 from my reading. Would love to read more on it but everything I have read so far does not align with that you are saying.

+1

It hits nearly GTX 780m FPS...

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/laptop/3506733/msi-gt70-2pc-dominator-review/
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So here's a chat log between me and the Aorus Facebook Page. (Name changed to protect identity)

funkmetal: Is AORUS going to release a X7 with SLI 860m's or 870m's? Otherwise I would have to get a different laptop, because SLI 765m's are last gen and as you said a single 870m beats the SLI 765m's?
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AORUS Technically speaking if you tweak our machines - it would probably be way more powerful.
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So what it seems like they are saying is you can overclock their machines or something to get more performance? Or is this a PR Rep trying to make their laptop look good?
 
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So here's a chat log between me and the Aorus Facebook Page. (Name changed to protect identity)

funkmetal: Is AORUS going to release a X7 with SLI 860m's or 870m's? Otherwise I would have to get a different laptop, because SLI 765m's are last gen and as you said a single 870m beats the SLI 765m's?
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AORUS Technically speaking if you tweak our machines - it would probably be way more powerful.
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So what it seems like they are saying is you can overclock their machines or something to get more performance? Or is this a PR Rep trying to make their laptop look good?

You can overclock the 860m's too so i would just brush that off. Just trying to get a sale.
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SLI 765m's are no slouch bud, I run 755m's at stock and I max out all games save for Rust and Total War Shogun II w/ DX11 maxed in field battles with high unit count.

The core clock of the 765m seems kind of low in comparison to mine as well, 865Mhz? I think? I know I can push mine to 1228Mhz

In any case though, its already a powerful set up, so the refresh will enable even more performance for ya bud thumb.gif

Customer reps are typically not the ones to go for with accurate information from the mouth. If hes saying just overclock and wont need to get new GPU's then its possible they wont be joining the refresh which would be odd
    
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