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Well heres some benchmarks for comparision.

The GTX 870m will pull 65 FPS in witcher 2 with ubersampling off at 1920x1200:
http://www.techspot.com/review/565-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti/page8.html

The SLI GTX 880m's would pull over 120 FPS.

Upgradeable sagers are nice. I had a 8130HM that i put a 2920xm and a 7970m in and it rocked. But with the way laptops are going, i expect you will see less modular video cards especially with the 870m's being soldered now. Most companies will likely solder GPU's in the coming years because the laptops will be thinner, and it will force you to buy a whole new one.

So at 1920x1080 in Witcher 2 I could expect 70+ FPS with those settings? Not bad, and yeah in most circumstances 120FPS in a Single player RPG is pointless, I would only need that 120FPS for FPS games like BF4, Titanfall, Planetside 2 etc. which I would be fine with a 60Hz monitor because I gamed with one up until a couple of months ago.

Yeah, I am leaning more towards the GS70 again (Why does this have to be so hard to decide tongue.gif ). Also, thoughts on MSI's Super Raid 2 tech, how reliable is it?
 
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So at 1920x1080 in Witcher 2 I could expect 70+ FPS with those settings? Not bad, and yeah in most circumstances 120FPS in a Single player RPG is pointless, I would only need that 120FPS for FPS games like BF4, Titanfall, Planetside 2 etc. which I would be fine with a 60Hz monitor because I gamed with one up until a couple of months ago.

Yeah, I am leaning more towards the GS70 again (Why does this have to be so hard to decide tongue.gif ). Also, thoughts on MSI's Super Raid 2 tech, how reliable is it?

Well RAID because of the nature of how it is set up has a higher failure rate than a single drive because you have 2 points of failure instead of one. , but that is a really low failure rate anyways because they are SSDs.Example if one drive fails you can't rebuild the RAID.However that depends on the drive, and to be straight forward no one has really used the M.2 drives that are in the gs70 yet, but SSD's are way more reliable than HDD. I would take it for what its worth. Its way faster than a single drive.
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Well RAID because of the nature of how it is set up has a higher failure rate than a single drive because you have 2 points of failure instead of one. , but that is a really low failure rate anyways because they are SSDs.Example if one drive fails you can't rebuild the RAID.However that depends on the drive, and to be straight forward no one has really used the M.2 drives that are in the gs70 yet, but SSD's are way more reliable than HDD. I would take it for what its worth. Its way faster than a single drive.

So do you think it would be better if possible to get 2 128GB SSD's in Raid 1 and the 3rd SSD to be upgraded for more storage (240-500GB maybe) and made a storage drive if I can through a customizer/reseller like Xotic?
 
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So do you think it would be better if possible to get 2 128GB SSD's in Raid 1 and the 3rd SSD to be upgraded for more storage (240-500GB maybe) and made a storage drive if I can through a customizer/reseller like Xotic?

I would do that.

That way you get the speed of RAID on the boot partition, then you have a backup for your DATA(MP3's video's etc) They are on the slower partition, ie 500 MBPS instead of 1400MBPS. Still plenty fast for media. If you had a 3 way raid you'd have another point of failure. At least this way you either lose your data or your OS, with a lower chance to lose your data.

I haven't looked at the raid config page, if you wanted the most redudancy in a laptop with 3 drives you could do RAID 5. It wouldn't be as fast as raid 0, but it would be faster than a single drive and you need 2 failures out of the 3 drives for it to go down, but you do lose storage space. You'd need to look more in dept for that but you'd want 240GB drives and you'd end up with like 480GB of storage from 3 240gb drives.
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I would do that.

That way you get the speed of RAID on the boot partition, then you have a backup for your DATA(MP3's video's etc) They are on the slower partition, ie 500 MBPS instead of 1400MBPS. Still plenty fast for media. If you had a 3 way raid you'd have another point of failure. At least this way you either lose your data or your OS, with a lower chance to lose your data.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, now to find out if Xotic PC or other resellers offer the options mentioned.

I think the Mirror Raid would be better for me because I can still use the laptop probably if one of the 128GB goes it doesnt affect me too much. Also, I thought Raid 1 didnt offer extra speed, it was more data security?
 
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Yeah that's what I was thinking, now to find out if Xotic PC or other resellers offer the options mentioned.

I think the Mirror Raid would be better for me because I can still use the laptop probably if one of the 128GB goes it doesnt affect me too much. Also, I thought Raid 1 didnt offer extra speed, it was more data security?

Yeah RAID 1 just mirrors the primary drive to the secondary.

You could do 2x 256Gb drives and a 512GB drive and do RAID 10

This gives you RAID 0 on the 2x 256GB and backs it all up to the 512GB Drive
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Yeah RAID 1 just mirrors the primary drive to the secondary.
Thats what I thought, and if one of the SSD's does go out, I would just change Boot priority in the bios and it would boot right? (Sorry if I sound noobish on raid, Ive never dealt with it before)
 
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Thats what I thought, and if one of the SSD's does go out, I would just change Boot priority in the bios and it would boot right? (Sorry if I sound noobish on raid, Ive never dealt with it before)


No its fine, RAID is a pretty odd thing to deal with in the pc world. I edited my above posts and added some raid 5 and raid 10 info.
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No its fine, RAID is a pretty odd thing to deal with in the pc world. I edited my above posts and added some raid 5 and raid 10 info.
kk, I see that, I dont think those options are worthwhile in a laptop. I think Raid 1 will be enough for me. I'm fine with waiting a few more seconds to boot with a SSD without Raid 0 and the extra security would be great on a laptop that costs this much. I am guessing that battery life is unaffected by Raid in any form?
 
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kk, I see that, I dont think those options are worthwhile in a laptop. I think Raid 1 will be enough for me. I'm fine with waiting a few more seconds to boot with a SSD without Raid 0 and the extra security would be great on a laptop that costs this much. I am guessing that battery life is unaffected by Raid in any form?

For all intents and purposes you wouldn't notice a difference it might be 1WH difference.
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i7 7700k @ 4.9Ghz Z270 Taichi eVGA GTX 1080 ACX 3.0 G.Skill Flare X 16GB 3200CL14 @ 3466CL14 
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256GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Samsung 850 Evo NZXT Kraken X52 Dell S2417DG 165Hz 1440p G-Sync 
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Razer Ornata Corsair 750 RM Phanteks Evolv ATX Logitech G602 
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