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So I spoke too soon, I just ended up replacing mine with a new one.

I started to notice throttling issues with the gpu while gaming formore than 30 minutes. I was hitting temps of 95 degrees Celsius and my core clock would get cut I half to 450 MHz. The CPU would also hit mid to high 90s during CPU intensive tasks.

Then I had a dead pixel, weird electrical noise/hum when on battery, my "enter" key started sticking and se of the keyboard LEDs wouldn't change color.

I'm opening the new one now. I will probably open her up and clean and repaste with Antec Diamond paste.

Funkmetal, how are the temps for you? Which gs70 did you get? 870m or 765m?
    
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Yeah your friend recommended you to a laptop that will unfortunately run hotter and is even more insanely overpriced than what IT is supposed to be competing against. (a.k.a. Sager and Alienware)

The GT70 is just stupidly thick. It really really is. It's actually thicker than my M17x R3 at the moment... so yeah... that's a thing.

His friend recommended a laptop that has one of the best laptop sound systems on the market. It is properly engineered to withstand a high thermal envelope as well. Sager is not really "much" better, if at all, after I got my hands on my brothers and helped fixed his overheating issues. Sager gives the impression of better cooling by many isolated fans. But frankly, mass air flow over the fins is what matters.

I'm yet to see my custom BIOS for the GTX570m go above 87C. After 3 years, the laptop is just starting to show signs of thermal paste wear. I just need to open it up and give her a good scrub and reseating and she'll be even better than when I got her originally. I don't think these are remotely close to being overpriced based on what you get.

The amount of refurbished MSI laptops lying around would be a good place to look if you plan on using the GT70. I've seen laptops, like that, run, locally from Memory Express go for around 1200 refurbished.

I recommend that X7 though. It looks nice (on paper). Be good to see an internal breakdown of how it is designed inside to see if the cooling would be adequate.
Edited by Domino - 4/23/14 at 7:26pm
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I thought about it as well but its not worth it. Your 870M can only push 1920x1080 pixels at high settings for most games, even if you have a 3K screen.
You will have to play the game at lower res, which wont be as crisp on that screen. Plus GS60 is hard to upgrade yourself, the dis-assembly is not trivual and it takes in non-standard M2 SATA SSDs. Stealth pro is way easier to upgrade.

Outside of gaming, it's much nicer to have that amount of workspace for multitasking especially for users who are used to having multi-monitors on their desktops. 3200x1800 scales 4:1 to 1600x900 (just as crisp as native) if you need gaming performance. 900p @ 15" is actually very close to the pixel density of 1080p @ 17". M.2 (NGFF) is also the newer SSD format for mobile computing. Crucial already sells their M500-series SSDs in M.2 format with fairly competitive prices (50-60 cents/GB). In fact, I'm planning to use one when I downsize my main rig with a Z97 board.

Scaling is vector based. You don't get this 4:1 scaling people claim.
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I wouldn't bring something like that to school, it would get easily stolen.
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I wouldn't bring something like that to school, it would get easily stolen.

While yes that is a possibility, I never let this thing out of my sight.Even if I were to go and get up to get a drink after I had gotten in the classroom before class started, I would pack it up and take it with me to get said drink. So I shouldn't have to worry smile.gif
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So I spoke too soon, I just ended up replacing mine with a new one.

I started to notice throttling issues with the gpu while gaming formore than 30 minutes. I was hitting temps of 95 degrees Celsius and my core clock would get cut I half to 450 MHz. The CPU would also hit mid to high 90s during CPU intensive tasks.

Then I had a dead pixel, weird electrical noise/hum when on battery, my "enter" key started sticking and se of the keyboard LEDs wouldn't change color.

I'm opening the new one now. I will probably open her up and clean and repaste with Antec Diamond paste.

Funkmetal, how are the temps for you? Which gs70 did you get? 870m or 765m?

I would need to activily check the Temps, give me about 30-45 minutes because I just installed HWMonitor on this PC and I will get back to you. And also, I got the GS70 with the 870m.
 
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So I spoke too soon, I just ended up replacing mine with a new one.

I started to notice throttling issues with the gpu while gaming formore than 30 minutes. I was hitting temps of 95 degrees Celsius and my core clock would get cut I half to 450 MHz. The CPU would also hit mid to high 90s during CPU intensive tasks.

Then I had a dead pixel, weird electrical noise/hum when on battery, my "enter" key started sticking and se of the keyboard LEDs wouldn't change color.

I'm opening the new one now. I will probably open her up and clean and repaste with Antec Diamond paste.

Funkmetal, how are the temps for you? Which gs70 did you get? 870m or 765m?

Ok, Update on Temps. In CS:GO on max settings (I know its a weak benchmark but its what I had installed so I could just hop in with some bots and test for you guys

Max temp on the GPU was 93C it was usually around~85C and I saw no throttling at all
 
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I wouldn't bring something like that to school, it would get easily stolen.

Anything can get stolen if you leave it lying around. Be responsible and it won't get stolen.


@funkmetal

Lol I wish I was getting 83 degrees before with my first gs70. I'm still downloading sniper elite v2 to check this replacement one out for temps.

Have you repasted inside at all or is it stock?
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I have been impressed with my notebook's build quality as well. I am glad to see that another person with a MSI gaming notebook is rethinking the whole "gaming notebook" thing lol. I would recommend that if you game on your lap to put something flat and rigid underneath the notebook to get better airflow. I found a nice notebook cooler on newegg to use while at my desk. Check out the Cooler Master offerings.
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I'm considering just going for one of the GE designs...my only issue is that the entire laptop lineup suffers from an apparent lack of HDD bays. The GE60 Pro looks promising, I've heard good things about the cooling now that it's matured. But then again, the Sager NP7358 has teh SAME issue with cooling, put IC Diamond on there and the temperature difference is unreal. Stock paste job it throttles under games; IC Diamond on it's sitting pretty maxing out at 80*C.

I just wouldn't be too fond of only having a single HDD bay to work with. Don't mind the mSATA stuff, I just like having a second bay I can use if I need to... >.>
     
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I'm considering just going for one of the GE designs...my only issue is that the entire laptop lineup suffers from an apparent lack of HDD bays. The GE60 Pro looks promising, I've heard good things about the cooling now that it's matured. But then again, the Sager NP7358 has teh SAME issue with cooling, put IC Diamond on there and the temperature difference is unreal. Stock paste job it throttles under games; IC Diamond on it's sitting pretty maxing out at 80*C.

I just wouldn't be too fond of only having a single HDD bay to work with. Don't mind the mSATA stuff, I just like having a second bay I can use if I need to... >.>

Been using stock paste. MSI sure does a good job on stock. After I move out into my new place I'm going to put on some proper paste (AS5) as the paste under the CPU has dried up completely (nearly). The turbo fan works wonders on these things.

I agree about the thermal paste and the sager. But even on stock paste I never notice throttling at first. I remember that 11.6 in gaming notebook they had. My buddy picked on up and I really liked the cooling on there. The thing can really be pushed. It shares similar concepts to the MSI build. I love seeing laptop designers understand simple thermodynamic principles where they merely put each component on their own pipe. Can't say that about some companies that charge twice as much for similar performance. Yuck!
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