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Well, the GS60 Ghost with the 860m was released on Newegg. I wonder how far behind the GS70 Stealth Pro will be?
 
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Well, the GS60 Ghost with the 860m was released on Newegg. I wonder how far behind the GS70 Stealth Pro will be?

AS the 860m is Maxwell and the 870m is Kepler i will say the difference will be 10% between the two of them and maybe less when overclocked because maxwell is a beast of an overclocker
     
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AS the 860m is Maxwell and the 870m is Kepler i will say the difference will be 10% between the two of them and maybe less when overclocked because maxwell is a beast of an overclocker

I think he meant release lol. I would guess in the next couple weeks.
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Its fine, that would have been my next question, how close in performance is it to the 870m and would it be worth getting the GS60 Ghost over the Aorus and the GS70 Stealth Pro. Thoughts?
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Its fine, that would have been my next question, how close in performance is it to the 870m and would it be worth getting the GS60 Stealth over the Aorus and the GS70 Stealth Pro. Thoughts?

Here is a good Aorus x7 review by HTWingNut Review

The X7 is a beast in every way but it has some heat problems

Will it heat up? Yes
Will it throttle? No

Which is not a problem if you will use it as a desktop replacement as you can easily put a Cooler under it.

If you compare them at stock speed the 765m SLI is around ~55% faster than the 870m which is around ~10% faster than the 860m
     
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Its fine, that would have been my next question, how close in performance is it to the 870m and would it be worth getting the GS60 Ghost over the Aorus and the GS70 Stealth Pro. Thoughts?

Again, how much do you value battery life? SLI will throw that out the window. You're better off sticking with single GPU unless you want it tethered to the wall outlet most of the time. 4-5 hours of battery life is pretty standard these days, especially for students traveling between classes, and the Aorus will get you half that at best, and that's when it's not doing any gaming. You would be essentially screwed if you need your laptop to for 2 consecutive classes and are unable to find a seat close enough to an outlet, and it's not unusual for that to happen these days with overcrowded classrooms everywhere.

If you're to spend extra money, the new Razer Blade 14" is mighty attractive with i7-4702HQ and GTX 870M with 3200x1800 IGZO touchscreen in a 14" package, and it only weighs around 4.5 lbs. wink.gif

Also, more powerful laptops will come with larger, heavier AC adapters. The difference there may not be much, but it can get annoying.
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Again, how much do you value battery life? SLI will throw that out the window. You're better off sticking with single GPU unless you want it tethered to the wall outlet most of the time. 4-5 hours of battery life is pretty standard these days, especially for students traveling between classes, and the Aorus will get you half that at best, and that's when it's not doing any gaming. You would be essentially screwed if you need your laptop to for 2 consecutive classes and are unable to find a seat close enough to an outlet, and it's not unusual for that to happen these days with overcrowded classrooms everywhere.

If you're to spend extra money, the new Razer Blade 14" is mighty attractive with i7-4702HQ and GTX 870M with 3200x1800 IGZO touchscreen in a 14" package, and it only weighs around 4.5 lbs. wink.gif

Also, more powerful laptops will come with larger, heavier AC adapters. The difference there may not be much, but it can get annoying.

Oh, yeah. The OP did said he want to play games on a two hour long bus I believe. If he grab X7 or SLI GPU, the laptop won't survive much with less than hour or half an hour.
     
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Here is a good Aorus x7 review by HTWingNut Review

The X7 is a beast in every way but it has some heat problems

Will it heat up? Yes
Will it throttle? No

Which is not a problem if you will use it as a desktop replacement as you can easily put a Cooler under it.

If you compare them at stock speed the 765m SLI is around ~55% faster than the 870m which is around ~10% faster than the 860m

Where did you get those numbers. The 765 sli was around the 780 mark in performance. The 870 should perform along the same lines as the 780 and will be a fair margin ahead of the 860 from my reading. Would love to read more on it but everything I have read so far does not align with that you are saying.
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Where did you get those numbers. The 765 sli was around the 780 mark in performance. The 870 should perform along the same lines as the 780 and will be a fair margin ahead of the 860 from my reading. Would love to read more on it but everything I have read so far does not align with that you are saying.

We don't really need to read anything. We already have knowledge of the architecture.

GTX 870M 1344 Kepler Shaders 941 Mhz 192 Memory Bus 5Ghz (Gimped GTX 670) Expect about 20% Slower than a GTX 670

GTX 780M 1536 Kepler Shaders 823 Mhz 256 Memory Bus 5Ghz (Gimped GTX 680) Expect 15% slower than a GTX 680.

GTX 765M 768 Kepler Shaders 850 Mhz 128 Memory Bus 4Ghz (Gimped GT 650 Ti) Expect 20% Slower than a GTX 650 Ti

GTX 860M 640 Maxwell Shaders 1029 Mhz 128 Memory Bus 5Ghz (Full GTX 750 Ti) Expect a full GTX 750 Ti

So take a look at SLi GT 650 Ti's non boost and compare them to a gtx 670. That is roughly what you are looking at.



Edit: Between the 860m and 870m i'd expect it to be rougly a gtx 750 ti vs a gtx 760.
Edited by Shiftstealth - 3/19/14 at 11:34am
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