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Well I paraphrased and I guess I used a poor choice of words. When I wanted to RAID my HDDs, he broke it down technically why I should not. Now that I think about it, he probably didn't say all the time, but he said that consumer grade HDDs and SSDs are not made for RAID and that it is only a matter of time before something goes wrong. He said that your chances of having a problem double with 2 HDDs. He says that unless you have error checking mechanisms in place like the kind that, for example, our university's computer servers have, you are playing Russian roulette with RAID. He told me that you need to have a way to skip bad sectors if they pop up and the HDDs need to be able to recognize that error and work around it, otherwise they will be stuck and will not be able to continue. A RAID solution like that would be a lot of money however. But I didn't get that detailed in my answer and when I think about it I should have worded it differently. I am not an expert in RAID but I do know that us computer lovers sometimes like to push the limits and sometimes pushing the limits is a bad thing. By this I mean that sometimes we do things that are really not meant for consumers to do and the hardware was not built for that. I know of someone on these boards who wanted to overclock his SSD. Bad idea. Another person wanted to overclock his RAM for gaming and it was already at 1600 and I told him that 1600 MHz is perfectly sufficient for gaming and there is no reason to overclock that.

 

Blasphemy. I must RAID for no reason, I must overclock RAM for 1 fps, and tell us more of this SSD overclock.  :devil:

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The whole point was to get faster reads and writes. If he didnt care about those he would go with an HDD. So, if you can increase those speeds, awesome, but is it noticeable? If all it does is speed up your boot time by a few seconds, but you leave your computer on overnight... then boot times are negligable. What about game loading times? Or other stuff?

Almost no one gets SSDs for sequential performance.

Anyway, diminishing returns for most of these uses start way before you reach the limits on a single SSD. I have difficulty telling the difference between a budget SSD from four generations ago and a brand new top of the line SSD in most things. RAID 0 of the latter would be mostly imperceptible in general use.
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Im sure there are times when a game that normally takes a bit longer than you would like to load between levels is benefited by a raid 0 SSD.

In the game with the slowest level loads I have (MWLL) there is a 15-20% difference in loading times between my older SSD (200MB/s reads) and a RAMdrive (6,000MB/s reads).
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i thought raid thing was back in hdd era. todays ssd yeah, no need for hassle
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It is important to determine what type of raid you are thinking about running. Raid 0 for SSDs only makes sense in a narrow selection of uses but raid for redundancy (1,5,10) is a great idea if you can afford it (both space wise and cost).
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For the last two months I've been using two older 256GB Crucial M4's in RAID 0. To be perfectly honest, when switching from a single SSD i did not see any improvement whatsoever, in fact the boot times got slightly longer due to the RAID controller being started. Apps and games start up just as fast as they did before, and I don't do any video work that would make the benefits visible - so yeah, i'm in the "don't bother" club.

I'm planning to replace both drives with a NGGF/M.2 480GB Crucial M500 to get rid of all unnecessary cable clutter instead, relegating the older drives to other familymembers computers.
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I'm sure we can all agree it has its up and downs. If you are going to raid, make sure it fits your needs.
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As a non RAIDer myself, and since most of my knowledge about RAID comes from my buddy and from what I read on the interwebs, I just want to add my opinion to this and you do not have to listen to me and I am not saying this is the case for everyone, and I am also not saying that I know anything about RAID, but I am just saying this as a PC gamer and enthusiast: is it really worth it to buy 2 SSDs to put into RAID? I personally would rather spend my money on a bigger SSD. I have just a regular OCZ Vertex 3 and it is the best upgrade I have ever made to my PC, better than any GPU upgrade I have ever made. The thing is that data on an SSD is much safer than data on an HDD because SSDs are less prone to failure. Also, SSDs are very fast and there is a point where you just need to ask yourself if it is worth the hassle for the extra bit of speed you might get. So personally, as a non RAID professional, and as just a consumer, I think it would be worth it to spend your time, effort, and money somewhere else. And as far as I know, 2 SSDs are more expensive than 1 SSD with double the capacity.

But I am not saying this is the case for everyone.
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I cant believe this got so much feedback...

I decided on grabbing one of the new enthusiasts intel drives. I will also be grabbing a used 64GB SLC drive to use the intel caching on my standard hdds
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I cant believe this got so much feedback...

I decided on grabbing one of the new enthusiasts intel drives. I will also be grabbing a used 64GB SLC drive to use the intel caching on my standard hdds

Great choice. Intel makes the most reliable SSDs you can buy so that is the perfect setup.
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Beg me pardon for sticking to Op's thread i just dont feel like doing my own and the purpose of my question is rather same.

The thing im wondering if 2x 120gb Crucial M 500 in RAID0 would be faster than 1x 240 gb Crucial M500 ? These ssds are very cheap (50gbp for 1x120gb and 89 for 1x240gb)
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