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I'm usually fine with picking out components, knowing what kind of build I want. But I'm in a bit of a bad situation.
My best friend I've told him I'd build him a desktop forever, originally he was going to go with a price range suggestion of my own, now he needs my help finding the build for him at a ceiling of 600$
Now my desktop I started with my processor and mobo, and in the end it cost me like 650, but I hit like 9 black friday deals in a row, got my hard drive for the price of it falling off the back of a truck.
What I don't know, is what type processor to shoot for his build, originally I was going to just do an 8350 because he likes it and understands the difference between a gaming cpu and just having an 8 core processor and the inherent awesomeness that comes with it.
So here's where I am, I need to get a gpu/mobo/ram/case, but everything starts with the cpu, and that's where I need advice, I want to find the right cpu for a build in that range. Normally I'd wait it out and snag an amazing deal but I need to have everything by march 15th. So I need to figure this out like, two days ago.

I appreciate any help and advice in general, I just really don't know where to go in terms of processors in this range.
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What exactly does your friend intend to use this system for?

The 8350 is either a great selection, or quite a poor one. The 8350 simply can't be beaten at the moment for multi-core performance at the price range, but it does much worse than cheaper Intel chips at anything bound to one thread.


For example, look at these prices.

AMD FX-8350 - $200 (Newegg)
Intel Celeron G1830 - $60 (Newegg)

Here are some links to benchmarks for them.
FX - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core&id=1780
Celeron - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+G1830+%40+2.80GHz&id=2165

At first glance, it would appear as if the FX was more than triple the performance, for a bit more than triple the price tag, and you wouldn't be wrong about it. However you need to consider single-thread performance if your friend would benefit from that instead of 8 cores.

Take a look at the following scores.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Search the page (Control + F, type in FX-8350 and then G1830)
I've got the scores here.
FX: 1512
Celeron: 1666

The two aren't that much different in performance, the celeron beats it by around 10% but the Celeron cannot be overclocked AFAIK since it isn't unlocked, so the FX could easily beat it with an OC. The thing to think about here is whether or not the FX is worth the money, saving $140 could allow you to buy a better motherboard, SSD, GPU, or an extra HDD.

Find out if your friend wants to put those 8 cores to work or not, and then look at different cpus. If he does want to use all 8, then cheap out on the GPU and go with the FX 8350, you won't find a better option for that.
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I personally would go with a 8320 if i was building a system in that price range, if i was going to use those cores, otherwise a different cpu may be better/the same for cheaper

need more info on rigs use

NCIX has a bundle deal going on right now for a gigabyte 990FXA UD3 and a 8320, 214 usd for both
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Hello, I have done a bit of research and it seems that the i5-4570 seems like a good processor to choose for this range. It is cheap and has pretty decent specs and there is a build that is in the general price range that you are looking for. The build is priced at 600 dollars, and while there may be some other CPUs that fit your description you should take a look at the build as it is built for light gaming.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34qvk


A bit over the ceiling but it has all quality parts, good cpu cooling, and unlocked cpu so he can learn overclocking. Also a good motherboard that has no problem supporting the overclock, a mid range video card, plenty of good ram, and 1TB of storage.
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Hello, I have done a bit of research and it seems that the i5-4570 seems like a good processor to choose for this range. It is cheap and has pretty decent specs and there is a build that is in the general price range that you are looking for. The build is priced at 600 dollars, and while there may be some other CPUs that fit your description you should take a look at the build as it is built for light gaming.


Cheaply built Micro atx motherboard, and only 1 stick of memory... It won't run at Dual Data Rate.
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