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Out of everyone I know, when it comes to desktops
Prebuilt - 0%
Custom/Built by someone they know- 100%

Have you guys seen the desktops offered by OEM's lately. Their garbage, they have not kept up with the times. The All in One desktops are the only ones I could see people buying into and even then the hardware is not good. HP has an All in One desktop powered by Kabini and one powered by Tegra. If that doesn't say something about the current state of the "desktop" market from OEM's, I don't know what does.

I think the problem is marketing.

The OEMs have lost touch with their customers, and many of them have amazing offerings, but no one knows about them. Back in the day when Dell had The Dell Dude doing their ads, people responded strongly to that, Dell had that connection. The commercials were geared towards giving people the information on a level they could understand and in a fun way.

Anymore all you see are ads with a picture of the PC and saying "Buy me for $499!", they are terrible.
    
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Well, what "we" know is our small circle. Most companies buy OEM, very rarely build their own and some times they get boutique PCs (like BOXX etc, at least in my field).
And large offices etc account for a big % of PC sales.

Issue is, there is not enough growth in companies/jobs for new PC sales, and there is little return of investment for upgrading: if you have a 3-4 yo computer - even older - you are pretty much "set" for casual computing (office applications, spreadsheets, PP presentations, web etc). That's what the bulk of PCs are doing out there, and most of those users would not bother to buy a PC capable for such tasks @ home...they are happy with a tablet.

The % of people that venture into digital content creation and will benefit from high-end, up to date systems is very small, and in those circles you might see updates in 2-3y cycles , or DIY or expensive boutique choices.
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AMD had a terribad 2013 and no, being better than 2012 doesn't mean anything.
Nvidia is in free fall but somehow it's fine. 2013 net income was 21% lower than 2012 and revenue was 5% down.
Intel is in the same boat as Nvidia with heavy losses and focusing on the mobile market. Net income down 13% and revenue 1%.

PC market is shrinking badly in both OEM and DIY.
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The market is pretty filled up, unless they start to market in third world countries. Everyone has a least a device or computer on their hands in first world countries.

 
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Yeah, the market is pretty saturated right now, as I think we all know. Even my grandfather has a computer that isn't too bad now. It's not like desktops are going away. We still need them to do things (at least I do). Eventually the market should reach equilibrium, unless a tech breakthrough occurs.
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Desktop sales are falling because nobody needs a new one anymore, they're still good enough. Intel, Nvidia, and AMD have made such massive improvements in the past decade that PC hardware 3-4 years old is still fine. When we start seeing 4k screens becoming more mainstream, we'll see another push for faster hardware.

Netbook sales are being replaced my tablet sales.


I'm not so sure about how great the recent advances in PC hardware have been. If anything they have slowed down. What we have seen is the gaming industry use the same tech for nearly a whole decade, thus when you buy a top of the line card to run that seven year old game engine everything defaults to "ultra".
I think games have stagnated to a much greater extent than hardware has improved.
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