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Hello people. Currently have an Athlon x4 760k at 4.5Ghz and it makes me get Fps drops to mid twenties in Bf4 and with mantle i get horrific stutters. Gpu usage with DX11 on 64 man is around 70% on my MSI R9 270X. I was thinking of swaping the CPu/Mb i have now to

Intel Core i5 4670K
MSI Z87-G45

Is this a worthy upgrade to my PC? also, how finicky is Haswell in comparison to ivy? Also, im mainly an Amd guy for Cpu's and overclocking so im guessing that I will be a complete Noob with Haswell. ( 1.5v will kill it right?, thats what im on now tongue.gif). So If possible can someone breif me a little on OCing haswell and whether or not this upgrade is worthwhile? Thanks
   
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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html



Uh, no question about it. The Intel is almost TWICE the processor as the AMD.
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Seems so lol. Didnt know difference was that big tongue.gif whats the deal with overclocking on Haswell?
   
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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html



Uh, no question about it. The Intel is almost TWICE the processor as the AMD.

That is the worst advice I've seen in awhile. And you backup the claim with a synthectic benchmark. The OP clearly states a gaming response. While your claim of quote"Twice" the cpu power is true in your linked chart, that in no way represents gaming performance.

All you need to do is find a BF4 review that has these cpu or equivalent, 6800k,4670k or 4770k, to get your answer.

You will find that there is little difference. This game is so much more GPU hungry.

Op is spending close to $400, on a near side grade cpu upgrade, instead sell your 270x and add money to get 290 or higher.
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So your telling me to get a r9 290 when my current 270x is only at 70% usage And my CPu is maxed out? seems like solid advice:/
   
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So your telling me to get a r9 290 when my current 270x is only at 70% usage And my CPu is maxed out? seems like solid advice:/

When did you say your CPU was maxed out? I advise you base on your information. My statement is still correct that you got bad advice. Where is the big 2x Performance between a 4770k and A10-5700?


Choice is really yours, I'm sure you will get some performance increase with a new CPU but not the 2x you want.
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'Testing Methodology

We tested the single player portion of the game to ensure consistent results -- something we simply can't do with others. We'd need a bunch players to participate in simulating a multiplayer environment for the benchmark and they'd all have to perform the same exact actions hundreds of times. We could have tested a multiplayer map by ourselves, but that would have likely been less demanding than single player.

We settled on the start of the fourth mission (titled "Singapore") which begins on the US vessel Valkyrie as the team walks to an inflatable rib where they have a brief discussion and then jump in before being lowered down. Although the test takes place in the Valkyrie's launch bay, the scene seems to use a lot of GPU and CPU power. There is heavy use of DoF (Depth of Field) here so perhaps that is what taxes the GPU'.

Edit: The above quote from the Techspot site you took the benchmark from.

Doesn't multiplayer tax the CPU much more then single player IIRC? the testing methodology from your review is single player. I agree Passmark is a terrible benchmark for measuring actual CPU performance in real life but I think usage on the GPU being limited to 70% is probably a sign of the CPU holding back the GPU somewhat, wouldn't you say?
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Posting pictures of benchmarks without actual links to testing methods, setups and so on is so 1990...
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This is hardly a side grade even from a gaming perspective. A 4670k will allow you to reach full GPU utilization in any game. Not to mention it will last you for 3+ years. Yes, there will be some gaming scenarios where your old Athlon and a i5 may trade blows, namely single player ones. Online multiplayer, RTS, MMORPGs, or any other non-gaming software that make use of your CPU and there will be a larger gains no question.
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When did you say your CPU was maxed out? I advise you base on your information. My statement is still correct that you got bad advice. Where is the big 2x Performance between a 4770k and A10-5700?


Choice is really yours, I'm sure you will get some performance increase with a new CPU but not the 2x you want.

How is it remotely relevant citing a benchmark with your emphasis being placed on the 4770K and A10-5700 as your source when neither of those CPUs are mentioned by the OP? I get it that you're looking for the closest comparison possible, but don't chastise another user for citing an irrelevant source and then doing so yourself. And before you go fanboy on me, I had AMD for a long long time before switching recently... Trust me when I say you will notice a difference. In BF4 and other gaming evolved titles it might not be as much, but even at stock clocks the Haswell i5s are pretty beasty little CPUs... mine performs better across the board at stock clocks than my old FX-8120 did at 4.0 / 4.2 GHz.

If the OP wants to do that upgrade, it's his choice. And honestly, instead of shelling out the money for an R9 290, if any can be found in stock for more than a single day, consider going with a 780 instead. Even though the 290 would edge it at stock clocks, the 780 will have a lot more OC headspace to even that out, while drawing less power and running cooler.
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