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Okay, I want to continue on this thread instead of making a new one, but there's a major update here and I'm now totally confused...


I got the new board in and installed it. All went well, and have used the machine for about 12+ hours so far without a hitch.

Today I went to plug it all in and it wouldn't post. Pretty much the exact same behavior as before- the cpu fan clicks on, but won't post or beep; power button won't turn it off, reset switch won't work, have to unplug the machine from the wall or use the psu switch to turn it off.

Reset the CMOS, tried to use the memok boot, reseated the cpu and checked the pins, re-plugged all the power connections, could not get this thing to post. I even put a hair dryer into the PSU vent for a couple of seconds thinking it could be some kind of cold-boot-capacitor issue with the PSU but to no avail.

A new twist, and benefit of this new board, is that I now have an indicator LED on the board (CPU-LED) telling me (per the manual) "it detects a problem with the cpu and will not boot until it is resolved."

So obviously this is a problem with the PSU or the CPU. The board has been changed, the RAM has been changed, the PSU worked fine with my borrowed mobo/cpu combo while I ordered my new hardware, and I'm leaning strongly to the CPU being bad.

Here's the weirdest thing I've ever seen:

After trying everything else I could think of, I left the computer on it's pre-post phase with the LED lit and just let the cpu fan run. I walked away for about 20 minutes thinking, I dunno...maybe if I let it warm up something will change and I can try again to boot it up.

So I'm sitting there, and after about 20 minutes of running this way the thing just beeps and clicks on. Didn't hit a switch, nothing, just decides to post and I'm typing on it now.

So now even if I had an older athlon to try in it, I can't even pinpoint my problem. There's a ghost in my machine and I need some input. I don't mind ordering a CPU upgrade at this point, but not if it's not going to fix the intermittent problem! Help!
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Also, I wanted to add this...with this board I have all kinds of monitoring of voltages the electrical control on this board is astounding. If this was a bad PSU, would it not be able to detect some kind of voltage fluctuation somewhere? I'm looking at all the voltages, both in the BIOS and in Ai suite, and everything as far as I can tell looks right and doesn't move from point hardly at all...

I guess my question is here, is this enough proof that this is a cpu issue and not a PSU issue? And why is this only a booting thing, why can't I throw errors in prime?!
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Man well you replaced everything else at this point it might be good to call amd and see if your CPU is still under warranty. I don't remember what term they carry but maybe 3-5yrs.

You can also maybe try increasing voltage a slight amount to the cpu-nb which should be the memory controller of I remember right. Its been about 2yrs since I have played with an amd.
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Well, I had my brother come over today and I used his new power supply to help test. I was able to replicate the issue with his power supply.

This tells me beyond a shadow of a doubt that this MUST be the cpu. I won't give up on her, but I have purchased a replacement FX-6350 which will be going in next chance I get. If it occurs after new case, new motherboard, new ram, new cpu, does it with two different power supplies, does it with no drives installed, does it with no GPU installed...if the cpu doesn't work, I'll have a confirmed haunting of my hardware.

Excited about the forced upgrade though. Picked up an H100i as well smile.gif
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I am beside myself at this point. This is defeating me...I have no idea what's going on here...please, please, someone shed some light on this before I go insane.


Installed the new FX-6350 into the new case, and I am getting no post with the CPU-LED light.

At this point, I have literally had this issue persist with entirely different hardware across the board.

Recap:

-Computer was running fine for years, and one day it had trouble booting. I benched the machine to diagnose and found that with one stick of RAM the machine would post, but once I put the second in, it would sometimes not post. All RAM sticks checked out fine in memtest, and I ordered a new motherboard.

-Installed new motherboard, ditching the old DDR2 and using the DDR3 from my wife's machine. The machine ran great for about two days, and suddenly wouldn't post. The new motherboard (Sabertooth 990Fx) has an indicator LED lit upon not posting- CPU-LED.

-Ran a borrowed PSU over (new in the box) and plugged in barebones (monitor, keyboard, mouse) and the machine still would not post. Used different keyboard/mouse setup during this test. Still showed CPU-LED.

-At this point since I had replaced the mobo, ram, psu, had the issue occur without the GPU (the older board had on-board HDMI, this one does not), I figured this had to be the chip.

-Installed a new FX-6350 and installed all the hardware into a new case. I am STILL getting this CPU-LED light and no post!!! I have reset CMOS, I have tried a different power supply which is currently in my brother's machine working great, have replaced the mobo, ram, cpu, case, remounted the cooler again and again, someone help, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!
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just thinking outside the box here, given how much troubleshooting you've already done...

Have you tried plugging the rig into a different mains point in the house?

I'm wondering if it's possibly a power delivery issue, or a faulty mains socket
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just thinking outside the box here, given how much troubleshooting you've already done...

Have you tried plugging the rig into a different mains point in the house?

I'm wondering if it's possibly a power delivery issue, or a faulty mains socket

Good thinking, and unfortunately, yes. The issue persists throughout the house on any outlet. I have also tried to use the exact same socket as the one my wife's 3770k build is plugged in to and has never had an issue.

Also have tried different PSU main power cable.
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hmmm

ok, based on your recap the mobo, ram, psu and cpu have been replaced

On your current setup, have you tried swapping out the HDD from your wife's rig?

It seems like the only thing left that I could even hazard a guess at
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This is an issue that will persist with no hard drive installed!
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post #20 of 25
this is bloody strange!

every solution I can think of you've already covered with all the parts you've replaced frown.gif

There's gotta be something specifically out of sorts with the environment the hardware is in, given the problem went away then came back

Is it all in the same case? Possibly something is making contact somewhere where it shouldn't and causing a short?

I'm pretty stumped
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