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Be smart about purchases. Don't make irrational purchases that have next to zero use. This direct x12 or whatever won't come out till at best end of the year, and then the use/implementation and what impact it has will be minimal at best. Direct x11 has been out for ages and well, games don't look and run much better either

DX11 is WAY better than DX9, from a programming stand point.
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The real story here is why is AMD first in the list of names along the bottom

Maybe because in English, the language that the ad was written, you read left to right and A comes before I, which comes before N, which comes before Q.

Aka it's alphabetical.
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Why does AMD care about DX12 now that they have released mantle?

Because Mantle is the direct result of years of begging by developers, it was not developed with the intent of selling more cards or to release proprietary AMD stuff.

It was developed with the intent of giving consumers greater performance and to give developers more control over hardware.
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competition...

Many of us have speculated from the beginning that this would happen. Microsoft would have never moved to greatly improve Direct X without competition. Now that AMD is actually posing a minor threat, MS & NVidia are teaming up to take DirectX to the next level.

This is good news for everyone, as every game comes with DirectX support, where as only a tiny % of games are planned to support Mantle.

Just to get this out of the way. I. AM. NOT. BASHING. MANTLE. I'm simply stating the obvious. It's going to take mantle years to mature, & permeate the market, where as MS could have this ready to go within a year.

And AMD and Qualcomm...
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I think MS mostly team up with AMD. Dont forget they develop together, the last years ,the API for xbox.

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Hey buddy!

It's definitely interesting times in the industry! And people wonder why I have decided to sit on my Titans until Volta/Denver.

From what I understand/have been hearing/speculation, this is mostly between MS & NV this time around.

doesn't make sense for AMD to be working with MS on a DX overhaul when they are supposedly trying to take over the API scene with Mantle.
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Why AMD attending is even remotely surprising? Do you think they will start dishing out GPUs without the newest and latest DX support or something?
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Hey buddy!

It's definitely interesting times in the industry! And people wonder why I have decided to sit on my Titans until Volta/Denver.

From what I understand/have been hearing/speculation, this is mostly between MS & NV this time around.

doesn't make sense for AMD to be working with MS on a DX overhaul when they are supposedly trying to take over the API scene with Mantle.

They dont really want to take over. If they want to take over there is no point for opengl or dx support through mantle. They mostly want mantle for console ports and then make the devs to use mantle for a better optimize dx version or opengl version.Or they just want to make a standard for the futures APIs
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Why does AMD care about DX12 now that they have released mantle?

Because ignoring it would be suicide in the long run.

Their GPU sales would get completely gutted if they stopped properly supporting future DirectX versions and updates.

AMD alone does not have the marketshare or the money to push mantle mainstream.
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Because Mantle is the direct result of years of begging by developers, it was not developed with the intent of selling more cards or to release proprietary AMD stuff.

It was developed with the intent of giving consumers greater performance and to give developers more control over hardware.

You know AMD is a company like any other... The whole point in getting more performance and getting developer support is to sell more cards.
 
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The real story here is why is AMD first in the list of names along the bottom....... NM, i see now that nvidia got to use their colors. All fair thumb.gif

alphabetical order. I notice all companies do it that way to now show favoritism. although you hit the nail on the head with the color theme.
 
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Why AMD attending is even remotely surprising? Do you think they will start dishing out GPUs without the newest and latest DX support or something?

Of course not! They could literally never do that. They HAVE to support direct X. Mantle will only be on ~15 games (hopefully) by the end of the year. A gpu that only worked for UE4/Frostbite wouldn't last long.

The industry has two methods for listing names.

A.) Who spends the most money - this is most commonly seen @ Conventions.
B.) Alphabetical.
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I'm sure DX 12 won't be adopted very well like DX10/10.1. Consoles are on what, dx11.2/11.1? Because of that, many devs aren't going anywhere for a long time. It's not worth it for them to move to dx12 when coding for dx11 is where the money is at on the consoles.
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