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confused.gif Will this be backwards compatible with DX 11 cards? Hope it is, what about all the people who recently bought DX11 cards?

We don't know.

They do mention "unparalleled assortment of hardware".
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confused.gif Will this be backwards compatible with DX 11 cards? Hope it is, what about all the people who recently bought DX11 cards?

That entirely depends on AMD/Nvidia. There was no backwards compatibility in the past, but I'm not sure if that was an artificial limitation to sell new cards, a resource limitation (Drivers are hard/expensive to make, trust me I've written some in school thumb.gif), or if older cards don't support the actual instructions new APIs need.
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How much you want to bet it will be implemented like DX10?

Not much, DX 10 was different as it didn't bring significant performance improvement over DX9. This is believed to bring significant improvement by reducing DX11 overhead.
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How much you want to bet it will be implemented like DX10?

Not much, DX 10 was different as it didn't bring significant performance improvement over DX9. This is believed bring significant improvement by reducing DX11 overhead.

The public also hated Vista, which didn't bode well for DX10.

But now, alot of people hate Windows 8... I bet Windows 9 (with DX12) will be the next "loved" OS, like 7 and XP.
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That is definitely the biggest question, will it work on our 6xx/7xx & 6xxx/7xxx cards.
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That is definitely the biggest question, will it work on our 6xx/7xx & 6xxx/7xxx cards.

has there ever been a gpu that was forward compatible with directx?
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My idea of what will happen with GPUs the next few years:

~March 20th, 2014--DirectX12 announced with the first supported games launching early 2015

~May/June 2014--Leaks and rumors about the GTX 800 series become more frequent

~July 2014--Nvidia announces 800-series Maxwell GPUs, OCN goes nuts

~August 2014--GTX 880 and GTX 870 are available for purchase, AMD cuts prices on GPUs

~September 2014--Leaks and rumors about AMD's R-300 series become more frequent
~Also September 2014--Nvidia releases the GTX 860 Ti

~Early October 2014--AMD announces GPU'15 press conference

~Mid-October 2014--GPU'15 press conference; AMD announces R-300 series with DX12+Mantle support, release date TBD
~Day after GPU'15--Nvidia does damage control; downplays DX12 and R9 390X, releases GTX 880 Ti if the 390X beats the 880
~Late-October 2015--NDA is lifted on R-300 cards, 390X is shown to run at 125C under full load (kidding!)

~November 1st, 2014--OCN gets impatient w/ AMD
~Mid-November 2014--R-300 series cards are available for purchase, Nvidia releases the GTX 860 Ti and the GTX 890

~December 2014--Nvidia releases the GTX 860 and the GTX 850, AMD retaliates with the R9 380 and the R7 365

~January 2015--Nvidia releases the GTX 850 Ti, AMD responds with price cuts

~March 2015--GTX 900 laptop parts begin to surface

~April 2015--Nvidia announces GTX Titan Ultra Black 2 with DX12 support

~May 2015--Rumors and speculation galore

~Late June 2015--Nvidia announces GTX 900 series with DX12 support

~July 2015--GTX 980 and 970 are available for purchase, AMD cuts prices again

~August 2015--AMD states that they are the best bang-for-the-buck, Nvidia users roll their eyes and buy the new GTX 960

~September 2015--AMD announces the GPU'16 conference, Nvidia releases the GTX 950

~Early October 2015--AMD announces the R-400 series

~Mid-October 2015--AMD stalls releasing R-400 series, OCN gets fussy

~Late October 2015--The R-400 series is now available for purchase, Nvidia releases GTX 950 Ti and GTX 960 Ti

~Early November 2015--Mantle-based Crysis 4 demo released, will literally melt your PC

~Mid-November 2015--AMD releases the R7 465 to combat the GTX 950 Ti

~December 2015--Nvidia releases the Titan 3

~January 2016--AMD releases R9 495 (single GPU) with GDDR6 VRAM

~Late January 2016--Nvidia releases GTX 980 Ti, but can't catch up to the R9 495, GTX 980 and 970 price cuts follow

~April 2016--Nvidia announces that their Volta GPUs are delayed 3 months (ETA September 2016)

~May 2016--Nvidia announces that their Volta GPUs will 2 months ahead of schedule (new ETA July 2016)

~June 2016--Price cuts on both sides

~July 2016--Nvidia launches GTX 1000 series with DX12.1 support, AMD follows suit with the R-500 series (just DX12.0)

~August 2016--Nvidia's GTX 1060 Ti is the lowest-end card with GDDR6, AMD has GDDR6 down to the R7 560X

By Q3 2016, Nvidia beats AMD in price, while AMD's R9 590X is the performance king.
What do you all think of my predictions?
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has there ever been a gpu that was forward compatible with directx?
The HD 7000 series sort of supports DX11.2, but I don't know of a GPU that supported a full version ahead.
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close, though we should see Project Denver in the consumer market before 2016.
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My idea of what will happen with GPUs the next few years:
[...]
~April 2015--Nvidia announces GTX Titan Ultra Black 2 with DX12 support
[...]
What do you all think of my predictions?

Guess it'll be "Titan Ultra Deep Space Black Ice Extreme Night Hawk Blood Turbo GTX Special Edition."
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