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AMD's Mantle API has been with us for just over a month now, and we have strapped a variety of video cards to the test bench to see what real world differences are being delivered to gamers within Battlefield 4. We will compare D3D11, Mantle, on various GPUs, looking at highest playable settings, frame times, and discuss our experiences.

For our testing procedures, we searched for a server with at least 60 players in a match and where the ping was under 50ms for a server located within 600 miles of the underground bunker. Prior to launching each setting change, we would confirm that it is configured in a running server, exit the game, and then reload the map to confirm that the settings were correctly applied, as there are times that in-game setting changes to not take effect if you do not reload the map.

We then played within the server performing various tasks, including capturing flags, blowing up tanks, and causing general mayhem as part of the team that we were placed on. We recorded the frametimes using the built in utility and then applied a formula to extract the average FPS over the course of the play session.

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Part 1 so I assume more is coming soon. However, I'm glad to see win 8.1 and an OC'd CPU.
 
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How about you show the pic of what it was really made for, eliminating CPU bottlenecks.



EDIT. Seems like the game feeling smoother wasn't a placebo effect. This is what i noticed more than any FPS increases mantle gave me, was how smooth it was.

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This spikes you see with Nvidia and AMD (D3D) are much reduced with mantle.

{obviously this chart is dual cards, but i know it affects single cards as well} Here is one card from techreport

D3D bf4-4770-d3d.gif

Mantle bf4-4770-mantle.gif

When tech report tested mantle it had a memory leak problem that resulted in a spike (you see one up there) that dice fixed on February 13. Id imagine if they retested it it would be completely smooth and show that even with 1 card, mantle has better latencies than DX11.



I really hope Dx12 is similar to mantle, I want to get all the performance i can out of my GPUs even if my CPU is showing it's age.
Edited by th3illusiveman - 3/5/14 at 5:36pm
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The link to the article is right there so people can go and check it out.

However single GPU at ultra settings is more relevant to the majority than CFX/SLI. I might have picked the lower end GPU chart instead of the 290X/780Ti one if [H] had included one with ultra settings instead of low settings.
 
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If the R9 290X was obtainable at the $550 MSRP, I would be impressed. However, since it is not, I honestly don't care what sort of improvements Mantle brings. It is simply not worth the price of entry.
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I'm more concerned on why AMDs d3d performance is worse now than on BF4's launch
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I just received a GTX 780, and I am blown away at how smooth the gameplay experience is compared to my previous video card setup. It is fast, smooth, and quiet... in otherwords, Nvidia's GTX 780/780 Ti is a home run.

Again, if the R9 290x wasn't so overpriced at the moment, there might be something to mantle improvements on the R9 290(x) but because they are so expensive, I simply do not see the point at the high-end.
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I just received a GTX 780, and I am blown away at how smooth the gameplay experience is compared to my previous video card setup. It is fast, smooth, and quiet... in otherwords, Nvidia's GTX 780/780 Ti is a home run.

Again, if the R9 290x wasn't so overpriced at the moment, there might be something to mantle improvements on the R9 290(x) but because they are so expensive, I simply do not see the point at the high-end.

the main benefit of mantle in my intel rig is being able play BF4 with my 290 paired with a stock i7 with HT off and still play it smoothly. I just wish all my other games has mantle as an option 'cause, for example, I still have to oc my cpu in games like BF3.
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If the R9 290X was obtainable at the $550 MSRP, I would be impressed. However, since it is not, I honestly don't care what sort of improvements Mantle brings. It is simply not worth the price of entry.
On newegg a powercolor 290X MSRP so there is one.
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On newegg a powercolor 290X MSRP so there is one.

It's actually $599 so no it's not MSRP and it's still the reference loud cooler. rolleyes.gif
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