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I just received a GTX 780, and I am blown away at how smooth the gameplay experience is compared to my previous video card setup. It is fast, smooth, and quiet... in otherwords, Nvidia's GTX 780/780 Ti is a home run.

Again, if the R9 290x wasn't so overpriced at the moment, there might be something to mantle improvements on the R9 290(x) but because they are so expensive, I simply do not see the point at the high-end.

So that completely negates the benifts the users who have r9s already? Just because the price to entry (thanks to retailers) is high (though you can get them cheaper then 780ti still, and at msrp everywhere but the USA) that negates this.

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It's actually $599 so no it's not MSRP and it's still the reference loud cooler. rolleyes.gif

Great! I can now buy a water block and be only $10 more then a 780ti! I'm glad a $50 mark up is eye roll worthy.
     
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It's actually $599 so no it's not MSRP and it's still the reference loud cooler. rolleyes.gif
Now maybe but yesterday thru mid day today it was $549.
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So that completely negates the benifts the users who have r9s already? Just because the price to entry (thanks to retailers) is high (though you can get them cheaper then 780ti still, and at msrp everywhere but the USA) that negates this.

Lol

Just saying that at the moment, the R9 290 and 290x are not a good deal, regardless of Mantle or no Mantle. If prices drop in the future, that story may change.

What won't change though is the sexy and extremely quiet cooler on my 780.



AMD still has a ways to go in that department.
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How about you show the pic of what it was really made for, eliminating CPU bottlenecks.

The pic that Alatar linked showed Mantle giving a 11.5% fps boost to a single 290x.

The pic you linked shows Mantle giving a 12.3% fps boost to a xfire 290x.

How are they not both valid for showing what Mantle can do?
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Now maybe, if we can keep the snide comments aside, I am very curious to see AMD/Intel testing. I have raised the question in the mantle thread about this. Seems one FX 8350 has had not one negative issue with the beta drivers and has considerable performance increases with his 290X x2 and FX 8350. He wasn't experiencing the low frame rate spike others were either ( the occasional 10FPS spike some got at regular intervals). Anyway, and this is not scientific, I noticed for the most part that the ones having issues with the Beta drivers had Intel. Probably just coincidence seeing that Intel has a greater majority of users here and everywhere, but I would like to see a better comparison of effect each has gotten recently.
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If the R9 290X was obtainable at the $550 MSRP, I would be impressed. However, since it is not, I honestly don't care what sort of improvements Mantle brings. It is simply not worth the price of entry.


Exactly and they don't even test on the 7xxx series which is also supposed to take advantage of mantle.
 
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The pic that Alatar linked showed Mantle giving a 11.5% fps boost to a single 290x.

The pic you linked shows Mantle giving a 12.3% fps boost to a xfire 290x.

How are they not both valid for showing what Mantle can do?
That site didn't show enough of it to see but look in the Mantle thread at some of the Frametime graphs, it is very evident.
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How are they not both valid for showing what Mantle can do?

Because one shows Nvidia ahead and the other shows AMD ahead?
Edited by Forceman - 3/5/14 at 6:55pm
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If the R9 290X was obtainable at the $550 MSRP, I would be impressed. However, since it is not, I honestly don't care what sort of improvements Mantle brings. It is simply not worth the price of entry.


Cheapest R9 290X right now at Newegg $589.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161438

Cheapest 780 Ti $678
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121822



also Sapphire Dual X R7 265 in stock, for $149.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202096

I think we can move forward from the price hikes.
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