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What a fail review. What do you understand when you see 30 fps from all these cards.Nothing because they are shader limited.4k with 2xmsaa and fxaa.What a fail:doh:
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post #102 of 149
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alright sure, at 4K, AMD is leading the way right now. But how many of us can afford a 4K setup? At 1080 and 1440p (the majority of us) the 780 Ti is the go-to card right now, especially if you play on a 1080p 120hz monitor.

or

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/01/26/xfx_r9_290x_double_dissipation_edition_crossfire_review/8

Bleh... lol tongue.gif
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You have nvidia cards for 2 gens now and you dont know how boost works...
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post #104 of 149
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Bleh... lol tongue.gif

Yeah, those drivers in that 4k review had a GPU utilization bug at 4k resolution which resulted in the 780/780ti cards capping at 70% GPU usage. That was mentioned by Tomshardware a few weeks ago, and was resolved in the current WHQL. The current WHQL NV drivers were tested at guru3d, today, and the 780ti is a faster card than the 290X at 4k resolution.

As I said though, both cards are very strong at 4k. The only issue is US/CDN pricing for factory OC'ed 290x cards which is currently wack. But the 290X could be (and probably is) a better buy in EU just for a fps per dollar standpoint. Not so in the states, generally speaking.
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Bleh... lol tongue.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Yeah, those drivers in that 4k review had a GPU utilization bug at 4k resolution which resulted in the 780/780ti cards capping at 70% GPU usage. That was mentioned by Tomshardware a few weeks ago, and was resolved in the current WHQL. The current WHQL NV drivers were tested at guru3d, today, and the 780ti is a faster card than the 290X at 4k resolution.

The boost i got from the recent driver is amazing in games i play. thumb.gif
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I still have yet to see a single review that takes 3570 @ stock speed, 3770k stock speed, 3770K @ mainstream OC = 4.2GHz, then 3770k at extreme OC >4.6Ghz and then compare them.

This review automatically assume that everyone that bought 290X must have 3770K and OCed to 4.6Ghz.
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Because the 780 Ti is faster stock for stock and has MUCH more OC headroom than the 290x, no matter what the cooler. GK110 just clocks better than Hawaii on average. If you're an overclocker the 780 Ti will be significantly faster for you. And then you get G-sync, shadowplay, CUDA, physx, etc...

Yes it's still overpriced, I'm not defending Nvidia's gouging, but to the enthusiast that demands the best there is, it's worth the extra $100. But if the 290 series ever returns to MSRP, it will once again be the king of price/performance in the high end. I got a 290 at launch for $400 and the performance I got for that money was amazing. I wouldn't even touch it at these gouged prices though.

Kepler faster clock for clock??
post #108 of 149
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You have nvidia cards for 2 gens now and you dont know how boost works...

Doesn't really matter either way.

With that particular review the power consumption numbers reveal how badly the 780Ti setup was throttling. Same can be seen from the temp. 83C = thermally limited = lowest possible boost clocks = 928MHz = extremely low power consumption (if you do the math it comes to around 150W per 780Ti). Even base clocks might be possible in that case.

Sure it's valid for the particular setup at bone stock settings but it's hardly relevant for OCNers since I doubt any of us here would let our cards run like that.
 
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Doesn't really matter either way.

With that particular review the power consumption numbers reveal how badly the 780Ti setup was throttling. Same can be seen from the temp. 83C = thermally limited = lowest possible boost clocks = 928MHz = extremely low power consumption (if you do the math it comes to around 150W per 780Ti). Even base clocks might be possible in that case.

Sure it's valid for the particular setup at bone stock settings but it's hardly relevant for OCNers since I doubt any of us here would let our cards run like that.

I wouldnt trust power consumption numbers from amauters neither oc numbers(just look all the titan oc attempts with stock bios.In general i dont trust the results from any major review site
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I've used reference cards for some time and during actual gaming with vsync off, the most i've ever throttled was 2 bins. 26MHz. In my experience, aftermarket cards never throttle. I've used 2 non reference GTX 680 variants that never throttled, and i'm using ACX 780s that never throttle now. The reference 680 did throttle, but only rarely and was 1-2 bins. 13 or 26MHz.

This is purely from a gaming perspective with a stock BIOS. I know you're into over voltage and all that stuff and extreme benchmarking. That can and will affect things, because gamers don't generally screw around with that stuff. But of course benchmarkers do mess with non stock BIOS and crazy high over-voltage unlocks. Anyway, that HardOCP test was using clearly bugged drivers which resulted in 4k performance anomalies. This bug was revealed at tomshardware. These issues are resolved in the latest WHQL, and as mentioned, the 780ti is the winner at 4k resolution with the Titan/780 OC being very close. What i'd like to see is Titan OC and 780OC 4k benchmarks, considering the GK110 scales so well with clocks. Anyway, both the 290X and 780ti are very strong cards for 4k. (and the Titan/780 as well, the Titan is generally 1-2 fps away from the 780ti even at stock settings)

I haven't seen any Mantle 4k tests, though. Curious.
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