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How full is the SSD?

18% free space
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My problem is that it doesn't do it in idle time,because the optimize drives tool shows (7 days since last run) on the SSD and (0 days since last run) on the HDDs[/quote]
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18% free space

That might be the reason for the slow down, there has been talk that the more full an SSD is the slower it works.

Here is a listing for SSDs on sale, a 240GB to 256GB might solve your slowdown problem.
http://www.techbargains.com/catsearch.cfm/0_11_1
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Now that we have established that Windows 8 has added a manual TRIM option that it has paired with the HDD defragment feature, together called Optimize, we can move on.

Parrot1553, everyone is not aware of the Windows 8 SSD optimize feature, since all the focus is on the missing Start menu, and anything considered "bad" by the 8-haters.

Questions for you, is your PC on 24/7? If not, the optimize is no doubt a scheduled task as the automatic HDD defragment option is (not that you can tell by the limited configuration it has), which is usually assigned to an assumed time of non-activity of the PC, meaning 2AM or a similar time. If the PC is off at that time, it will not happen, and will not be made up for when the PC is on. It runs only at the scheduled time.

Did you clear your BIOS/CMOS recently? If so, I think that will reset the last optimization time to Never, as Windows interprets the BIOS clear as inserting new drives, or at least starting over with drive letters, etc. Since it can't sort that out even if the drives were not changed, it resets the time to Never.
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Now that we have established that Windows 8 has added a manual TRIM option that it has paired with the HDD defragment feature, together called Optimize, we can move on.

Parrot1553, everyone is not aware of the Windows 8 SSD optimize feature, since all the focus is on the missing Start menu, and anything considered "bad" by the 8-haters.

Questions for you, is your PC on 24/7? If not, the optimize is no doubt a scheduled task as the automatic HDD defragment option is (not that you can tell by the limited configuration it has), which is usually assigned to an assumed time of non-activity of the PC, meaning 2AM or a similar time. If the PC is off at that time, it will not happen, and will not be made up for when the PC is on. It runs only at the scheduled time.

Did you clear your BIOS/CMOS recently? If so, I think that will reset the last optimization time to Never, as Windows interprets the BIOS clear as inserting new drives, or at least starting over with drive letters, etc. Since it can't sort that out even if the drives were not changed, it resets the time to Never.

hi,yes my pc is on 24/7 and is being used about 20/7.Anyway I managed to fix the issue,now even after days it automatically trims the ssd and is working as intended.I found the fix on this page,step 1 and 2: http://www.outsidethebox.ms/why-windows-8-defragments-your-ssd-and-how-you-can-avoid-this/#_Toc352763203
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Thanks for the above link, always found it annoying that Windows said the SSD drive hadn't ran, so I did it manually. Just created the above and it now shows running fine.
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hi,yes my pc is on 24/7 and is being used about 20/7.Anyway I managed to fix the issue,now even after days it automatically trims the ssd and is working as intended.I found the fix on this page,step 1 and 2: http://www.outsidethebox.ms/why-windows-8-defragments-your-ssd-and-how-you-can-avoid-this/#_Toc352763203

Assuming that the issue described in that link it correct, and I don't immediately see any reason that it is false, given the evidence for it, this is a huge issue for SSD owners using Windows 8.

HOW did I somehow know to disable the automatic/scheduled Optimization shortly after I started using Windows 8? Perhaps because it recognized some of my SSDs as HDDs? That was early on with Windows 8, which may have been fixed, but I still don't trust it.

IMO, SSD owners using Windows 8 or 8.1 should read the article in that link, and in the mean time, disable scheduled Optimization. If you forget to do it manually once, twice, or ten times, I highly doubt it would make a significant difference.
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