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ok have to admit havent used a intel sence the pentium 3 days so nead some advice on a micro atx build for a family member looking at a asus z87 gryphon mb and looking at a I5 4430 or I5 4440 only going to be used for entry level gaming with crysis level grafics will this be a good set up
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Got a Budget?  Otherwise 4670k  all the way!!!

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trying to keap the parts under $200 each

and its not going to be overclocked at all its just going to be a replacement/upgrade for a laptop
Edited by HerrisDevio - 3/5/14 at 7:20pm
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($195.99 @ Staples)
Case: Rosewill ARMOR-EVO ATX Full Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $894.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-06 14:06 EST-0500)

Here you go! I tried to keep all the parts under $200. Not a bad machine if you ask me. Should be able to get most games on at least medium settings at 1080.
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699GB TOSHIBA MQ01ABD075 (SATA) TSSTcorp CDDVDW SN-208AB Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1 
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AMD A8-5600K MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 AMD Radeon HD 7560D Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600... 
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Western Digital Green 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal... Sandisk 64 GB SSD LG BH10 Blu Ray Burner Windows 10 Pro 
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post #5 of 17
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Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Here you go! I tried to keep all the parts under $200. Not a bad machine if you ask me. Should be able to get most games on at least medium settings at 1080.

Avoid that PSU at all costs its not very good
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post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by WolfGeneral View Post

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($195.99 @ Staples)
Case: Rosewill ARMOR-EVO ATX Full Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $894.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-06 14:06 EST-0500)

Here you go! I tried to keep all the parts under $200. Not a bad machine if you ask me. Should be able to get most games on at least medium settings at 1080.

You dont need a Z87 motherboard with a locked chip. A B85/H87/H81 Board will be fine: ASRock B85 Pro4

That Seagate Hybrid Drive is a slow joke. If you are spending that much money go with a WD Black (WD1003FZEX)

And if you are trying to get a cheap PSU that is actually good go with the XFX Core Pro 550W
post #7 of 17
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mb on that build is no go has to be micro atx she already has a case she likes and only supports micro atx

and i chose the gryphon because i own its big brother and i enjoy it because of the large nunber of fan controllers
Edited by HerrisDevio - 3/6/14 at 1:08pm
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by HerrisDevio View Post

mb on that build is no go has to be micro atx she already has a case she likes and only supports micro atx

Not really just go with the Micro-ATX Version: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157385
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 3/6/14 at 1:08pm
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well thats not a bad board over all but the gryphon still gives more upgradeablity headroom her case supports 4-7 fans and the gryphon i know its probly bly overkill right now but the 4 ram slots and the capability to drop a good i7 in it once we can afford it i think out weights the cost of the board over all

this is the case she owns

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208053
Edited by HerrisDevio - 3/6/14 at 1:31pm
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by HerrisDevio View Post

well thats not a bad board over all but the gryphon still gives more upgradeablity headroom her case supports 4-7 fans and the gryphon i know its probly bly overkill right now but the 4 ram slots and the capability to drop a good i7 in it once we can afford it i think out weights the cost of the board over all

There's no point, if you get the Gryphon spend that small amount of money to get a 4670k and overclock it. The difference in price between the 4570 and the 4670k is literally $20.02. You can get the 4670k on Amazon.com for $220.00

And it takes 20 minutes to do a 4.4GHz overclock with Haswell:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

1. Set "All Core" CPU Multiplier to 44X
2. Set CPU cache Multiplier also called the Ring bus multiplier to 35
3. Set Fixed CPU Vcore to 1.25 -1.30v
4. Set CPU Cache Voltage also could be called Ring Bus voltage to 1.20v -1.25vv
5. Set Vrin also called "CPU Input Voltage" To 1.9v - 2.1v

DO NOT and i repeat DO NOT mix up the "Cpu Voltage" and the "CPU Input Voltage". One is for the CPU and the other for the On Die VRM's.

Save and reboot into windows.
Use your favorite Stress tool. I used IBT on High and monitor temps with Realtemp or some other monitoring program.
Run it for 10 Runs or 20 or whoever you feel comfortable with. I run it for 10 usually. If it doesn't blue screen you after the 5th run you could assume you're stable. Again run it for as many times as you want. Get through 10 or 20 runs and no crash? Congratulations you're stable and you can fine tune.









Some extra's. Some bios' will add in a little offset voltage for both the CPU and Cache. Mine was .8 for the CPU and .4 for the Cache. If that happens put the lowest setting you can. Not "Auto" but .01 for each.

Then you won't have to upgrade at all, for a mere $20.
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