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Agreed, a lot of these forum members spend over $500 alone on a TV and then complain that $50-$60 purchases are too much. Learn to budget better and $50 wouldn't be too much.

Agreed, a lot of these forum members spend over $500 alone on home cinema systems and then complain that $50-$60 purchases are too much. Learn to budget better.

Agreed, a lot of these forum members spend over $500 alone on furniture and then complain that $50-$60 purchases are too much. Learn to budget.

Agreed, a lot of these forum members spend over $500 alone on club nights and then complain that $50-$60 purchases are too much.

Agreed, a lot of these forum members spend over $500 alone on dates and then complain. (Who can blame them?)

AKA if you're spending (arguably) a lot of money on something (especially club and date nights biggrinsmiley.gif) you shouldn't complain that something else costing less is too much. rolleyes.gif

More like if you spend so much on a gaming rig then complain about a games price being too much then there's something wrong with your hobby. I'm guessing you were trying to make a point but failed.
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Gaming rig is a gaming rig (hardware) and games are games (software). Both of these mean different things for different people.
To reiterate my point I'll ask you how much/little people can spend on a rig before they get to safely and securely complain about gaming prices without being accused of having something wrong with them.
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Gaming rig is a gaming rig (hardware) and games are games (software). Both of these mean different things for different people.
To reiterate my point I'll ask you how much/little people can spend on a rig before they get to safely and securely complain about gaming prices without being accused of having something wrong with them.

My point is that you know what you're getting into when you buy an expensive gaming rig. Game prices really haven't changed much in the past couple of years so I don't understand why people still complain about paying $60 for a game as if it's changed significantly. It's like buying an expensive HDTV and then complaining that spending $25 dollars on a blu ray is too expensive. If you spend over $500 on a graphics card just to game then you should already know the prices for games. If gaming is too expensive then find a cheaper alternative.
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My point is that you know what you're getting into when you buy an expensive gaming rig. Game prices really haven't changed much in the past couple of years so I don't understand why people still complain about paying $60 for a game as if it's changed significantly. It's like buying an expensive HDTV and then complaining that spending $25 dollars on a blu ray is too expensive. If you spend over $500 on a graphics card just to game then you should already know the prices for games. If gaming is too expensive then find a cheaper alternative.

Game prices haven't changed, no.

What has changed, however, is that gaming companies are now charging us the same price for incomplete games, and then charging us more for "DLC."

The price hasn't changed. What you get for the price absolutely has.
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Game prices haven't changed, no.

What has changed, however, is that gaming companies are now charging us the same price for incomplete games, and then charging us more for "DLC."

The price hasn't changed. What you get for the price absolutely has.

What do you mean by "incomplete"? Are you referring to the crap that is BF4 incomplete? Or as in you think that DLC should have been included already? If you're saying that the DLC should have already been included then I have to disagree to an extent. Day 1 DLC is terrible and should have been including in a full games release. DLC down the line has an always was been paid. BF2's expansions like the special forces pack was paid DLC, Halo 2 map packs were paid DLC, HL episode 1 and 2 were paid DLC. It really hasn't just sprung up out of no where.
Edited by theturbofd - 3/6/14 at 7:54am
post #36 of 339
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Game prices haven't changed, no.

What has changed, however, is that gaming companies are now charging us the same price for incomplete games, and then charging us more for "DLC."

The price hasn't changed. What you get for the price absolutely has.

This.

DLC, expansion packs, even microtransactions are all fine; As long as the base game is actually a complete, competent, working experience. This doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

Not saying this is the case with Titanfall; because I don't care about Titanfall. But, the dislike of DLC.etc is not misguided in the slightest, anymore.
 
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No issues, You have the option of the season pass or to buy the map packs individually, OP saying a $60 online game just became a $85 game for the map packs yes you are correct but where does it say you are forced to buy them. This is no different than any other "Season Pass" model out there. Maybe one, these map packs are for a game that is out of beta whereas BF4 is still in beta biggrin.gif

All because of DLC, really. The season pass saves you money if you want all the map packs saving you a little bit over buying them individually and ofcourse you're not obligated to buy the season pass or individual map packs.


Saves me money? Lol

I will not be fooled by that.
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If you account for inflation, those $75 games in 1993 would cost $120 now. Cost of creating a game has gone up dramatically, the price that they are selling games for has stayed about the same.
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Game prices haven't changed, no.

What has changed, however, is that gaming companies are now charging us the same price for incomplete games, and then charging us more for "DLC."

The price hasn't changed. What you get for the price absolutely has.

Yes, they very much have.

If you account for inflation, an N64 game was $50-$60 in 1996...I happen to recall many at $59.99...

Let's say we go off of 2012's numbers since they're very widely available.

That $60 equates to: $86.69, today.

So, actually, in the real world market, you're paying the same amount for more content.

You're NOW paying that $85 ($60 + $25dlc) for significantly more content than existed previously.

This is just the economical discussion.

Now, let's get into the discussion of completion...This is 100% a subjective discussion.

Is a game complete when it's launched? Or is a game complete after DLC's?

Let's use Super Mario World as our base.

It had @ 15 hours worth of head on content, @ 25 of completion. Content, good content for a game on the N64. -- 40 hours, if you REALLY get into it...However arguments exist you can really do everything in 10-15...100% completion.

Let's use Bioshock Infinite as our modern example.

There's arguably 50+ hours worth of initial content, not including exploration and the additional 20+ hour DLC's. -- So 70 hours...If you get into it.

Bioshock Infinite launched for: $50
Season pass: $20

So your $70 was actually LESS than the $86 you would've spent and you get twice the content.

Was Bioshock a FINISHED product? Absolutely.
Was the DLC worth it? Absolutely.
Did I pay $70 for that product? Absolutely and thoroughly enjoyed it. Added @ 20 hours of additional content for me.

What's my point? You're attaching an opinion to a game being finished. Regardless of your or our opinion, a game is finished when the developer says it is.

DLC's are add-ons to that finished product.

If you don't think the game is "finished" than don't buy it but, comparative to 10 years ago, you're getting significantly more content, NOW, than you were back then.
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I've played the Titanfall beta and have bought my copy (£28), I also played the BF4 beta and guess what I didn't buy premium or BF4 at all I waited until I got BF4 for £12 as it is not finished. If you played the BF4 beta and still pre-ordered and bought premium etc. you only have yourself to blame.

DLC is optional that is it you do not have to buy it simple as that. DLC only adds value if you want it to i.e. if you buy it and like it.

I never played the Beta...EVER!
I based the game off of BF3 ... Thought it wouldn't be too much different.... BUT I was wrong. Who purchasesa game because they played the beta? That's a small percentage. The majority wanted the game for the reason I just gave you.
    
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