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Hi guys and girls,

After I finished my most recent build I wanted to make something out of my old one as in make a computer for my girlfriend smile.gif !
I hadn't much time so far as I have two jobs, an adowable kid, an amazing gf and 2 cats to take care of..
But here I am with some time in my hands !

My old computer was a FX-6801.
I bought a define R4, a H60, a Samsung 840 (as I was satisfied with mine), a MX239H, a Steelseries keyboard and a Steelseries Sensei Raw mouse to go with it.
Her cousin had an old P6T Deluxe V2 lying around, supposedly not open (I discovered later it was missing the manual for example) that I bought for a 100$ because I thought it would be a better mobo.

My old computer was entirely functional when I made my new one just to precise..
The problem is as follow :

I tried with both motherboard and in both case I have no display at all, I hear the fans running, the HDD, the fan of the GPU, the mobo has its LEDs on, etc.
I had a display once on the P6T v2 but had weird stripes accross the screen during BIOS and when it made it to Windows the screen just went berzerk showing random pixels and stripes (normal due to the wrong drivers installed I suppose). I was not able to have a display again sadly.

What I tried, what I plugged on both motherboard :

In both test all I plugged or installed was :

3 x 2 GB DDR3 1033 (I had 6 sticks in the good ol' FX-6801, so three sticks on each motherboard at the right places).
1 x GTX 285 (I even tried with my GTX 770 on the P6T v2 thinking it could be the GPU but no chance).
1 x DVI to HDMI from my GTX 285 to the MX239H
1 x 500GB old HDD from another computer that I saved for someone
1 x Intel i7 920 that worked like a charm last time I used my old comp.

Plugged the 24pin Mobo cable, the 8pin CPU power cable, both PCI cables on the GPU, both CMOS battery were in
On both Motherboards, everything is ON, I hear the fans (when plugged, I haven't during the test), the HDD, the GPU, etc.
Still no display. I tried playing with the RAM sticks, I tried switching the CMOS batteries, I tried my GTX 770 on the P6T v2 as mentionned above.
I tested with another monitor (have three at home) and tried the MX239H on my setup and it works like a charm..

What am I missing ? Could a piece be fried ?
I don't have a voltmeter or anything of that kind sadly.
What do you guys think, what would your advice be ?
I can provide pictures or anything you guys will ask for.

Thanking you kindly for all help you could provide !
Edited by stnz - 3/6/14 at 3:35pm
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post #2 of 11
If you've tested it with two different motherboards and two different GPUs, that really narrows it down. Maybe try a different PSU.

Do you have a monitor that does not need an adapter? That way you can do DVI to DVI. Also, try another monitor cable.
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A different PSU ?
I don't understand how that could change a thing as both systems boot normally..
But yeah I think I'll just take my own system down and just place my old mobos and CPU inside it see if it works.

And yeah, I'll try DVI to DVI on my U2713HM.
I tried DVI to HDMi and DVI to VGA already from two different monitors..

Thanks for the support ! Will keep you posted
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So I tried again and did a lot of testing.
Here is how my test were made :

I TESTED BOTH MOTHERBOARDS WITH :

1) My i7 920, 8pin CPU cable is plugged in (you never know, someone could ask if I had plugged it in..)
2) Both with my RAM and my old build's RAM (3 sticks in each case) and yes they were at the right spot.
3) Both with my GTX 770 and the old GTX 285, both with two screens plugged in, one DVI to DVI and the other one DVI to VGA (both screens work on my actual setup without a single problem and plugged at the same spot).
4) On both motherboards I tried with both the CMOS batteries I had (switching them)
5) Finally, I redid all these test with my actual PSU and not the old one.
6) I used the Power SW from her define R4 to power the Gateway Mobo and I used the power button on the P6T v2 to power each setup. The other cables plugged in are the PCI cables for the GPU, the 24pin for the Mobo and the 8pin CPU power cable.

In every single test and setup I had not once a display. In all tests the led on the Mobo is ON, I see the GPU running, if I plug a HDD I hear it running as well, and if I plug a fan it starts too.

MY CONCLUSIONS :

1) Could it be that both Mobos are dead ?
It seems unlikely to me since my old gateway mobo was working just fine before I changed computers but could I be that much out of luck ?!

2) Could it be that my CPU is dead ?
I took a frontal and rear picture of it if needed so you guys can tell me what you think. This is to me the most probable cause to me as I have no other 1366 CPU to test the boards with.

3) It can't be because of the PSU.
As I tried with both my old one and my new one.

4) It can't be because of the RAM.
As I tried with both my old one and my new one.

5) Could it be that I need to flash the bios of both Mobos to their most recent versions ? The thing is I can't since I don't have a display.
The thing is I can't since I don't have a display nor another CPU..

6) As I sadly do not have a Mobo speaker I can't tell about the POST..
Yes I am considering buying one soon to redo these test and for later reparation purposes.

The only tests I have not done is use my old PSU on my actual build and plug my old GTX 285 in my actual build. I'd have to try it to be sure that both works fine but I am almost certain they do as they both power up and are running during the tests.

So.. What do you guys think ?
Do you have any ideas ? Any suggestions ?
What are your conclusions ?

Thanking you kindly for all help you could provide !

PS : I have pictures for each test or almost each.. I can upload them here if needed, I took them with my iPhone 4 but you can still see well and I can add a legend with my dear old Photoshop.
Edited by stnz - 3/10/14 at 2:10pm
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Dunno maybe a long way but test each stick of memory in slot one, then two then three and so on.

Test you PSU with a tester or multimeter. Here is a link for a corsair psu. http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2011/may/testing-your-corsair-power-supply

What board and memory are you using along with the processor?
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That's the thing.. I do not have a tester or multimeter.
I'd have to buy one, just like I have to buy a motherboard speaker.

The first Mobo is the one that came along with my FX-6801 and was working perfectly well with my i7 920.
Found a link to it here.

The second Mobo is an Asus P6T v2.

I tried the board with two type of RAM, the first one is the one that came with my FX-6801, 6 Kingston 2GB sticks (I tried with only three) that run at 1066. The second is the RAM in my actual build, Corsair LP running at 1600. The corsair RAM has been tested with memtest on my build and all passed.

Regarding the PSU, I tried with my actual PSU, a hale90 750W, and it didn't change a thing sadly.. That PSU works perfectly well on my actual rig.
Edited by stnz - 3/10/14 at 4:14pm
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You might have killed the CPU. You've done a lot of testing and ruled out many things. The only thing you have not done is tested the CPU in a known working system. Maybe see if there is some computer shop nearby that can POST test it for you. Hook a system speaker up and see what kind of beeps you get.
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That's the thing.. I do not have a tester or multimeter.
I'd have to buy one, just like I have to buy a motherboard speaker.

The first Mobo is the one that came along with my FX-6801 and was working perfectly well with my i7 920.
Found a link to it here.

The second Mobo is an Asus P6T v2.

I tried the board with two type of RAM, the first one is the one that came with my FX-6801, 6 Kingston 2GB sticks (I tried with only three) that run at 1066. The second is the RAM in my actual build, Corsair LP running at 1600. The corsair RAM has been tested with memtest on my build and all passed.

Regarding the PSU, I tried with my actual PSU, a hale90 750W, and it didn't change a thing sadly.. That PSU works perfectly well on my actual rig.

I BELIEVE... LOL as the dude's say I Believe you got hosed more ways than one... Sorry person peep...
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I'll ask around to know if there is someone that still has a working X58 system.
I think I'll have a hard time though wink.gif.

As for a system speaker believe me when I say that in the place I live (Quebec), not a single repairing shop has one..
Even the ones that supposedly know how to repair computer or build them..

I'll buy one and treat myself with a multitester as well, any good one to recommend ?

If the CPU is fried, I'll just wait for Intel's summer deal and get myself a 4770K, I'll then buy a Mobo and a 780.
I'll give my 3770K and Mpower Z77 to my Gf, she'll use the RAM from my old FX-6801 and its PSU.
I'd buy her new ram but the prices are just way too expensive right now -_-

Thanks a lot for your help guys !
Edited by stnz - 3/11/14 at 8:50am
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I know I e-mailed Cooler Master for a case speaker fan for my HAF-922. They sent me 2 free of charge...
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