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Today pumped to 3.3GHz with following settings

CPU Ratio: 9.0
FSB Freq: 367
PCIE Freq: 100
FSB Strap: Auto
DRAM Freq: Auto
CPU Volt: Auto
MEM Volt: Auto

Prime95 stress test fpr 3h - I have hit 75C max on Core #0 (rest has 68-71C) and sys temp. max 44C. ASUS AI Suite shows 1.2160V on CPU and 1.2080V after drop.

Also it looks like mem on AUTO got switched to 1:1 at that point (no clue why).
post #12 of 32
ASUS P5Q Deluxe was one of the best P45 mobos made. It was also one of the most expensive in addition to being very high quality.

Your board automatically adjusts the FSB:DRAM ratio so that to enable the system to boot under most configurations.

This motherboard can achieve up to 500 MHz FSB and probably beyond that.

Your Q9650 can go up to 4.4 GHz 3D gaming stable on this motherboard.
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post #13 of 32
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Based on NewEgg specs is not compatible with 775 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010) but Corsair is saying that it is (http://www.corsair.com/en/hydro-series-h50-cpu-cooler) I'm confused at that point. Does NewEgg selling kind of "scrapped" edition?

It looks like Newegg is selling a newer version of the H50 that doesn't support the 775 socket: http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-series-h50-quiet-cpu-cooler ("Quiet Edition"). frown.gif

If you're really into one, you can try contacting Corsair support and see if they have old stock or could sell you the mounting bracket separately.
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Today pumped to 3.3GHz with following settings

CPU Ratio: 9.0
FSB Freq: 367
PCIE Freq: 100
FSB Strap: Auto
DRAM Freq: Auto
CPU Volt: Auto
MEM Volt: Auto

Prime95 stress test fpr 3h - I have hit 75C max on Core #0 (rest has 68-71C) and sys temp. max 44C. ASUS AI Suite shows 1.2160V on CPU and 1.2080V after drop.

Also it looks like mem on AUTO got switched to 1:1 at that point (no clue why).

Like Arxontas said, if you leave the memory on AUTO it'll default to 1:1 speeds, as your memory has to run at least as fast as the FSB (for example, if the FSB is set to 400MHz, the RAM has to run at 400MHz or higher).

I'd say those temps are alright, but I wouldn't want to go much higher. Actually, try to set the CPU voltage manually, as you may be able to get it to run at a lower voltage (and then should get lower load temps as well.)
post #14 of 32
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3.4GHz with following settings

CPU Ratio: 9.0
FSB Freq: 378
PCIE Freq: 100
FSB Strap: Auto
DRAM Freq: Auto
CPU Volt: 1.216
MEM Volt: Auto

Prime95 stress test for 1.5h - I have hit 76C max on Core #0 (rest had 70-71C) and sys temp. max 45C

Still looking for decent air cooler or Corsair H50 with 775 bracket.

PS.
For Air cooler I think I have two choices:
Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E and Noctua NH-D14

Question is should I go with one of them or search for H50?
Edited by JackTheKnife - 3/10/14 at 6:47pm
post #15 of 32
I was using a high-end extreme Air Cooler designed for 150W TDP CPUs, the Thermaltake Frio OCK, specifically designed for overclocking with my QX9650.

It was capable of keeping my cores below 65 Celsius @4GHz in the hot Greek summer working at about 60% load.

Unless you live somewhere where it is hotter than 38-40 Celsius ambient, a Noctua NH-D14 would be more than adequate to keep your cores at or below 70C@4.2 GHz.

The Q9650 emitted substantially less heat than the QX9650. 80W TDP versus 130W TDP. Huge difference.

If you want extreme overclocking (your Q9650 can do 4.4 GHz) go for the Noctua NH-D14.
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I was using a high-end extreme Air Cooler designed for 150W TDP CPUs, the Thermaltake Frio OCK, specifically designed for overclocking with my QX9650.

It was capable of keeping my cores below 65 Celsius @4GHz in the hot Greek summer working at about 60% load.

Unless you live somewhere where it is hotter than 38-40 Celsius ambient, a Noctua NH-D14 would be more than adequate to keep your cores at or below 70C@4.2 GHz.

The Q9650 emitted substantially less heat than the QX9650. 80W TDP versus 130W TDP. Huge difference.

If you want extreme overclocking (your Q9650 can do 4.4 GHz) go for the Noctua NH-D14.

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Now that you mention all that, it reminds me that I almost went with a NH-D14 cooler instead of the H50. Its a killer air cooler, but its pretty massive, so make sure you have the clearance in your case.

Another cooler you might want to look at is the Prolimatech Megahalems, I think it topped the charts for air coolers when it was originally released and the ones on Newegg say they come with 775 mounting hardware (needs separate fans though).
post #17 of 32
Those heatsinks are so expensive that it does not worth getting one.
With that money you can sell your 775 system and buy a new one.
Simple as that.

Take a ZALMAN CNPS10X OPTIMA (but I think you said you have a decent heatsink by now) and if you had followed my suggestions you should already had achieved 3.6Ghz and started trying for more, instead of searching for a heatsink.
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patentman makes a good point. As "great" as 775 is, its becoming harder to justify expensive upgrades for it these days with better and better tech coming out all the time.

Try knocking the CPU voltage (vcore) down a notch or two and see if its still stable (should lower temps), or try trying upping FSB without raising the vcore (increase speed without increasing temps [too much...]), to see if that helps.
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Those heatsinks are so expensive that it does not worth getting one.
With that money you can sell your 775 system and buy a new one.
Simple as that.

Take a ZALMAN CNPS10X OPTIMA (but I think you said you have a decent heatsink by now) and if you had followed my suggestions you should already had achieved 3.6Ghz and started trying for more, instead of searching for a heatsink.

1. These heatsinks may be expensive but they are the best in the market and recommended for extreme OC. In addition, the same heatsinks maybe re-used when the OP sells his S775 system and buys an LGA 2011 or 1155 or 1150 system. So, we are not talking about wasted money here, but rather, an investment.

For instance, I myself I am using a 2012 heatsink & fan with my brand new Haswell system, in fact the very same heatsink & fan I used to cool my 775 system, namely Thermaltake Frio OCK.

2. A Noctua NH-D14 costs 76 euro. I really can't see how 76 euro is a lot of money. Even If you make just 800 euro per month, 76 euro is a bit less than 1/10th your monthly salary, and a bit less than 1/120th your yearly salary.

In fact, I spend double and triple that much money on Friday night every week when I go out. 76 euro is the equivalent of three packs of cigarettes and a couple of bottles of whiskey in some night club.

However, I can see how 76 euro might be considered a lot of money for someone who is unemployed. So, while 76 euro maybe a lot of money for unemployed people such as Patentman, it isn't for the rest of us who work for a living.
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patentman makes a good point. As "great" as 775 is, its becoming harder to justify expensive upgrades for it these days with better and better tech coming out all the time.

Funny then how Patentman doesn't follow his own point and upgrade his S775 systems to newer tech, don't you think?
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Originally Posted by Arxontas View Post

1. These heatsinks may be expensive but they are the best in the market and recommended for extreme OC. In addition, the same heatsinks maybe re-used when the OP sells his S775 system and buys an LGA 2011 or 1155 or 1150 system. So, we are not talking about wasted money here, but rather, an investment.

It is exactly what I had in my mind to getting air cooling instead H50 - I can use it later with newer system. Regarding an upgrade - compare it to a year ago same parts almost doubled in price (RAM, mobo, GFX) so I want to keep my system as long I can till prices will go to "normal" level.

Back to topic.

I have switched put FSB to 400, per Patentman suggestion, and lowered Vcore from 1.27V to 1.216V, per Jetpak suggestion. I have tested with Prime95 for two hours and got max 78C on Core#0 (whole CPU 71C) and system temp went to 46C. I think I will switch system fans from MID to HI (I have Corsair 650D with manual switches for system fans) to get more air flow through the case.
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