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People who say no air cooler can cool this off, should look at Tri X and PCS cards. They keep the cards at 65/70c under sustained full load with auto fans! ~ 45%

Tri slot/tri fan card, with a bit more aggressive fan curve, will easily cool it off and keep it under 85c max.
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People who say no air cooler can cool this off, should look at Tri X and PCS cards. They keep the cards at 65/70c under sustained full load with auto fans! ~ 45%

Tri slot/tri fan card, with a bit more aggressive fan curve, will easily cool it off and keep it under 85c max.

this will be two chips, would get hotter than one tongue.gif
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I highly doubt this card, even with a waterblock, would be able to fit in most ITX chassis on the market, barring those chassis that honestly should be in mATX territory (like the Prodigy). This card is probably quite a bit longer than the 7990, which is already too long for most ITX chassis.

They could always use 2 seperate PCBs and stack them side by side, like the GTX 290.
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this will be two chips, would get hotter than one tongue.gif

Yes, but this uber tri slot coolers with some modifications can keep it around 85c, i bet smile.gif
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Yes, but this uber tri slot coolers with some modifications can keep it around 85c, i bet smile.gif

 

Yeah.....doubt it. Ares cards are rarely down-clocked much at all. And even though the Tri-X cooler was designed for the R9-290/290X cards, it would still flounder and die having to dissipate the heat from two Hawaii cores. You have to be realistic. If one Hawaii core is hitting 70C with a triple fan cooler designed specifically for heat dissipation from one core, how on earth do you think its going to properly dissipate heat from two Hawaii cores, especially ones that aren't really down-clocked at all?

 

Either they are going to go the route of the Ares II and slap a CLC on it, down-clock it to kingdom come, or it would have to be one MASSIVE card to properly dissipate heat produced from two Hawaii cores. Knowing Asus, its probably going to be the former, with a 38mm thick copper 240 rad CLC dissipating heat.

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70c is with fans at very low 40-45%, with 2 core card, and fans at 65% + tri slot vs 2 slot design, the card will be cooled down relatively easy, you couldn't oc but it will work for stock, like i said around 85c...
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Yeah.....doubt it. Ares cards are rarely down-clocked much at all. And even though the Tri-X cooler was designed for the R9-290/290X cards, it would still flounder and die having to dissipate the heat from two Hawaii cores. You have to be realistic. If one Hawaii core is hitting 70C with a triple fan cooler designed specifically for heat dissipation from one core, how on earth do you think its going to properly dissipate heat from two Hawaii cores, especially ones that aren't really down-clocked at all?

Either they are going to go the route of the Ares II and slap a CLC on it, down-clock it to kingdom come, or it would have to be one MASSIVE card to properly dissipate heat produced from two Hawaii cores. Knowing Asus, its probably going to be the former, with a 38mm thick copper 240 rad CLC dissipating heat.

Maybe asus plans on giving it an included cooler, but instead of making it closed this time, theyll go the poseidon route and make it an expandable one this time. Now that would be awesome.
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I read somewhere that the Direct CU2 cooler was one of the lesser aftermarket coolers, behind Twin Frozr, Windforce, Tri-X, etc.. thoughts?

Yeah this is somewhat of a tangent but not too much I think.
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Maybe asus plans on giving it an included cooler, but instead of making it closed this time, theyll go the poseidon route and make it an expandable one this time. Now that would be awesome.

 

Yeah, and $50 bet that if they go that route, they are going to use the dreaded anodized aluminium too. Its almost comical how they still haven't figured it out that its highly detrimental in every aspect. Risking galvanic corrosion with your other blocks, and not to mention aluminum has half the thermal conductivity of copper. Even for a card the cost/size of their Poseidon cards, it wouldn't be that much of a BOM cost addition in respect to MSRP.

 

Doesn't seem the case though as Asus ROG posted this:

 

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And judging by the fact that there is a recessed PCIe power connectors compared to PCB width, this could actually be a Matrix 290X.

 

Its quite a similar PCB design (not pcb component design) to the 280x Matrix:

 

280X Matrix:

 

Leaked photo of this unknown card:

 

 

 

PCB shot of the Ares II (notice 3 x 8pin PCIe connectors on Ares II, and only 2 on the leaked photos):

 

 

 

I'm gonna place my bets on a Matrix 290X, not a dual Hawaii card. Because if it was a dual Hawaii card, they would be using damn near every square centimeter of that PCB. Which the leaked photos show isn't happening.

 

But I could be wrong.


Edited by Kinaesthetic - 3/9/14 at 1:04am
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http://www.asus.com/News/6IVSEggmHAQHPNJ2

Could it be a r9 280x
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