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Imagine the system requirements to run this...

Oh there's no way we'll be able to max it out with current hardware.

The cell processor in the PS3 is ridiculously complex. Emulating it will take a monster of a machine.
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PS1 disc and Dreamcast discs as prime examples, but everyone has different experiences. I found blu rays are a lot more durable, I dont know if they have some kind of protective layer or something but I hardly ever see a scratch on my blu rays or PS3 games, if there's a little scuff on them just give it a rub and it's all good to go thumb.gif

protective layer, because the data layer is 0.1mm away from the surface.
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i read somewhere that sony was making a PS3 emulator that would run on the PS4? Maybe a future feature of the PS4?biggrin.gif
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Lets skip the PS3 and go directly to the PS4. thumb.gif

hahahha that would be a great console killer, people would be like oh damn now you can play ps4 on pc? : o
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Oh there's no way we'll be able to max it out with current hardware.

The cell processor in the PS3 is ridiculously complex. Emulating it will take a monster of a machine.

what do you mean by complex? why would it take a monster of a machine, my i7 goes to town better than that cell processor
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what do you mean by complex? why would it take a monster of a machine, my i7 goes to town better than that cell processor
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frickfrock is right. translating the cell architecture to an x86 architecture requires a lot of time and coding. it's more complex than you think when the programmer has to reallocate the resources used in the cell architecture to the general computer hardware we have available today for consumers.

again the cell architecture gave PS3 game developers and programmers a headache from what i recall when the PS3 first launched.

or something along those lines. i remember reading about how hard it would be to get a PS3 emulator running in this day and age from the PCSX2 Forum. let alone trying to get a DECENT FPS out of an action game (like The Last of Us).
    
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Do they still use CELL in PS4? If I remember correctly, wasn't CELL supposed to be good because the underlying architecture allows for unlimited scaling with minor adjustments? Maybe I was misinformed.
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Do they still use CELL in PS4? If I remember correctly, wasn't CELL supposed to be good because the underlying architecture allows for unlimited scaling with minor adjustments? Maybe I was misinformed.

Nope, they use an AMD Jaguar 8-core. its x86.
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So, what now, all of you who keep insisting that emulating a PS3/360 would be impossible for the next 15 years? rolleyes.gif
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Do they still use CELL in PS4?

Nope, it's x86. Specifically, 8 AMD Jaguar cores paired with a Radeon HD 7850-class GPU connected with HSA.



On a sidenote, I know how a lot of people mention the next-gen consoles are underpowered, but I rather doubt any of them have even given the HSA capabilities any more than a passing glance. If you've seen just what sort of performance improvements are possible with it, your mind will be blown.

Mantle for the PC improves performance just by removing overhead, letting it perform like a console, but otherwise whatever power is in the GPU is what you get to play with. With HSA, the raw power you have access to simply multiplies. Libreoffice, while not being a game, shows just how massively a purely GPU operation (running on OpenCL) speeds up if HSA is leveraged. Check out the main thread here on HSA, but LO received something like a 400% boost in calculation speed.

So yeah. Next-gen console performance will get better despite being built on familiar and apparently mid-end hardware. Based on the few real world HSA workloads benchmarked so far, better by a lot. And the best part is that this is tech that's coming to PC's too, starting with AMD's APUs like Kaveri, and hopefully continuing with their hardware and software partners.
     
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