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Hello everyone,

I hope this is in the correct section. If not, I apologize.

I was wondering if you can help me out a bit here. I am looking at an i3 4330 3.5Ghz Mac build. I was wondering if that processor is good enough or should I go for the i5. All that I will be using the rig for is HD media playback, HD streaming, audio (music) and Garageband. That is all.

It has 2 x 4GB of RAM, if that helps.

What do you think?

Thank you in advance for your help and advice!
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It will be plenty. Never underestimate an i3.
 
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Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post

It will be plenty. Never underestimate an i3.

Nice! I never thought much about the i3. Is it pretty powerful for a dual core?

I guess that I should have mentioned that it will be using Maverick and the new Garageband. Does that make a difference?

Thank you very much for responding to me so quickly!
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The only thing you will be missing is some rendering speed in garageband from the bigger better processors (i5/i7). The i3 is a dual core 4 thread muncher.

You should not have any issues with Mavericks. Just make sure you're running 10.9.2 because of a nasty SSL bug.

Also, onboard audio is fine, but being an audiophile >.> it is never enough. JDS Labs makes a nice DAC + AMP (O2 + ODAC).
Edited by Lord Xeb - 3/7/14 at 12:27pm
 
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post #5 of 12
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Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post

The only thing you will be missing is some rendering speed in garageband from the bigger better processors (i5/i7). The i3 is a dual core 4 thread muncher.

You should not have any issues with Mavericks. Just make sure you're running 10.9.2 because of a nasty SSL bug.

Thanks again for your speedy reply.

When you say rendering, do you mean, let's say, after a song is made the rendering is the amount of time it takes to make it into an MP3 or something? Sorry, I am just trying to understand. And, can you tell me more about the SSL bug, please?

Thanks!
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Yep, you are correct.

For this nasty SSL bug ArsTechnica does a nice job explaining it:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/extremely-critical-crypto-flaw-in-ios-may-also-affect-fully-patched-macs/

Essentially the bug basically makes it so the SecureTransport encryption layer on the Mac don't the certificates of incoming or outgoing requests. You can fill the cert with junk and it still accepts. Leaves you open to man-in-the-middle attacks. Any online banking, secure site (example would be logging into newegg buying things), email services that use SSL, etc. were vulnerable. Since the 10.9.2 patch. things are good. Oh, and this bug also affected IOS users. Make sure your running iOS 7.0.6 or later. This issue only affected 7.0.4 and 7.0.5.
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Yep, you are correct.

For this nasty SSL bug ArsTechnica does a nice job explaining it:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/extremely-critical-crypto-flaw-in-ios-may-also-affect-fully-patched-macs/

Essentially the bug basically makes it so the SecureTransport encryption layer on the Mac don't the certificates of incoming or outgoing requests. You can fill the cert with junk and it still accepts. Leaves you open to man-in-the-middle attacks. Any online banking, secure site (example would be logging into newegg buying things), email services that use SSL, etc. were vulnerable. Since the 10.9.2 patch. things are good. Oh, and this bug also affected IOS users. Make sure your running iOS 7.0.6 or later. This issue only affected 7.0.4 and 7.0.5.

Cool. So, how much more time are we talking, for rendering, that is? Is it pretty negligible?

Although, I probably will not be doing online banking and bill paying, my wife will probably wind up going on there and checking email and, perhaps, a little shopping. I will definitely update to 10.9.2.
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Your looking at not much. Maybe if something takes 10 minutes on an i3 it takes 6-7 on an i5 and maybe 3-5 on an i7. Not bad. So pretty much negligible.
 
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Your looking at not much. Maybe if something takes 10 minutes on an i3 it takes 6-7 on an i5 and maybe 3-5 on an i7. Not bad. So pretty much negligible.

Cool! Thank you for your help! I really appreciate it. I didn't know whether to send it back and get an i5 or not, but I think I will stick with the i3.

Thanks!
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Oh and if you get a 21", make sure to max out the ram if you plan on doing more with it in the future. To do an upgrade is... hard... if you don't know what you are doing. It requires the glass and logic board to come out of the system.
 
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