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Consoles are already coded close to "the metal." Mantle was based off of the APIs AMD developed alongside MS and Sony for the new consoles. DX12 should benefit PC much more than Xbox One. As for DX12 bringing performance parity between the Xbox One and PS4, that is a lofty dream. Not much you can do about 50% more shaders on the PS4.
 
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I thaught these custom gpu and CPU for Xbox one is special made which I thaught they have more power than people think
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DX12, 25fps @ 900p

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I thaught these custom gpu and CPU for Xbox one is special made which I thaught they have more power than people think

The PS4 and Xbox One APU is made by AMD. They are both the same process except the PS4's GPU has more shader cores. The Xbox One sacrificed the GPU size to add on-die memory so they could cheap out on the system RAM. PS4 uses faster GDDR5 RAM AND kept the GPU size high.

This diagram shows you what I mean:



Notice how MS scarified GPU power for eDRAM so they could use less expensive DDR3. Sony kept the full power of the GPU and spent more on high end RAM.
 
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I thaught these custom gpu and CPU for Xbox one is special made which I thaught they have more power than people think

Same could be said of the GPU and CPU for the PS4..

I for one don't believe the Xbox one is more powerful than I originally thought.. It's about what I expected, possibly lower, however it's whether or not it will get better as the devs get more familiar with it.

On the topic of DX12 for the xbox one, I'm wondering what benefit, if any, will be gained from it..
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Don't give them ideas please. If they do it in a year or 2 i will blame you.

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They are both the same process except the PS4's GPU has more shader cores.
Playstation 4 -> 1152 (1280) ALUs / 72 (80) TMUs / 32 ROPs / Southern Islands Instruction Set Language (DirectX 11.1 with some DirectX 11.2 support)

Xbox One -> 768 (896) ALUs / 48 (56) TMUs / 16 ROPs / Sea Islands Instruction Set Language (Full DX 11.2 support + DX12 Support?)

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Notice how MS scarified GPU power for eDRAM so they could use less expensive DDR3.
It is actually an ESRAM cache.
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I thought the PS4 used a modified OpenGL API?
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I thought the PS4 used a modified OpenGL API?
Playstation 4 uses a Sony Graphic API that is similar to Mantle.
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