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I don't know man. That $200 over reference and $130 over DC2 is a tough sell.
I remember being peeved that the 780 Lightning was $100 over reference 780...
If the thing was $649, I would buy it in a heartbeat. That cooler does wonders for the Hawaii chip. And since you are going to be air-cooling it, I'd choose the Lightning even though it pains me to fork over such a premium.
So my vote goes to the Lightning. Grab it and don't regret it.
    
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I don't know man. That $200 over reference and $130 over DC2 is a tough sell.
I remember being peeved that the 780 Lightning was $100 over reference 780...
If the thing was $649, I would buy it in a heartbeat. That cooler does wonders for the Hawaii chip. And since you are going to be air-cooling it, I'd choose the Lightning even though it pains me to fork over such a premium.
So my vote goes to the Lightning. Grab it and don't regret it.




4X Direct CU 2 ~ $2400
4X Lightning ~ $3000


So now is it worth $600 more?

Yeah I know what you mean it's just pissing me off that it's like $130 over.



Essentially you can buy 5X Direct CU 2 for the price of 4 Lightning.
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4X Direct CU 2 ~ $2400
4X Lightning ~ $3000


So now is it worth $600 more?

Yeah I know what you mean it's just pissing me off that it's like $130 over.



Essentially you can buy 5X Direct CU 2 for the price of 4 Lightning.

 

Or, you could buy 4 reference 290X's, 4 EK/Aquacomputer blocks + backplates + entire loop setup. Which would be the best option imo (unless you already have a custom loop to begin with).

 

Then you could have silent, Hawaiian bliss :thumb:!

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The DCUII has a pretty badly optimized cooler for the Hawaii cores, and the Lightning is the overclocker's dream card on AMD's side. So if you are going to be overclocking on water or so, there is no question about it- Lightning is the better card. But it should NOT be $130 more than the DCUII or any other 290x mad.gif

I have a DCUII and I took it out of my main rig, I even refuse to waterblock it.

The cooler design as geggeg mentioned is nothing more than inferior. Vrm temps were 10-20C apart difference, so sure it's great for slight use and gaming where it will keep temperatures to a acceptable level.

Then you try and overclock it 50mhz core and 50~150mhz memory to see one VRM is at 63C and other is at 87C with core at 75C.

Might I add when the fan tops out at 3000rpm.. If your card isn't under 75C you're going to see nothing but added heat with no ability for the cooler to dissipate it.

(this card was in a 900D with over 20 fans so the airflow was there, the cooler on it was just not good)
  
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4X Direct CU 2 ~ $2400
4X Lightning ~ $3000


So now is it worth $600 more?

Yeah I know what you mean it's just pissing me off that it's like $130 over.



Essentially you can buy 5X Direct CU 2 for the price of 4 Lightning.
Now, that is a bit different because the people that buy 4 top tier GPUs rarely play "is this worth it" game. tongue.gif
I'd still grab a Lightning and be happy.
    
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Now, that is a bit different because the people that buy 4 top tier GPUs rarely play "is this worth it" game. tongue.gif
I'd still grab a Lightning and be happy.


Haha Any thoughts on

XFX Black Edition Double Dissipation ? Vs the DirectCU 2? It's around $650 range. ITts reference with a better cooler.



Reference ones are $599 DirectCU 2 $620 DD $650 Lightning $750.
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Haha Any thoughts on

XFX Black Edition Double Dissipation ? Vs the DirectCU 2? It's around $650 range. ITts reference with a better cooler.



Reference ones are $599 DirectCU 2 $620 DD $650 Lightning $750.
I have had no prior experience with XFX. For better or worse, I have stayed away from them because of user experience on OCN.
    
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I have had no prior experience with XFX. For better or worse, I have stayed away from them because of user experience on OCN.


Well I'm stuck in limbo.


Option 1: Reference + waterblocks

Option 2: Asus ?

Option 3: XFX ??

Option 4: Lightning haha.


I don't know if I want to build another watercooling loop have 2 rigs + a test bench on H20. This rig is mainly going to just mine and some light gaming on it. Reference coolers aren't going to cut it so looking at a none reference cooler. The only thing on the XFX that bothers me is the PCI-E connectors that you have to push out the heatsink to remove/install because there not flipped over. Other than that the cooler is really thin which is good for 3-4 way setups that you can have enough room to stack the cards without using water. The lightning on the other hand won't work in 3/4 way because of the 3 slot coolers.
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Well I'm stuck in limbo.


Option 1: Reference + waterblocks

Option 2: Asus ?

Option 3: XFX ??

Option 4: Lightning haha.


I don't know if I want to build another watercooling loop have 2 rigs + a test bench on H20. This rig is mainly going to just mine and some light gaming on it. Reference coolers aren't going to cut it so looking at a none reference cooler. The only thing on the XFX that bothers me is the PCI-E connectors that you have to push out the heatsink to remove/install because there not flipped over. Other than that the cooler is really thin which is good for 3-4 way setups that you can have enough room to stack the cards without using water. The lightning on the other hand won't work in 3/4 way because of the 3 slot coolers.

option 1 !!!
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Haha Any thoughts on

XFX Black Edition Double Dissipation ? Vs the DirectCU 2? It's around $650 range. ITts reference with a better cooler.



Reference ones are $599 DirectCU 2 $620 DD $650 Lightning $750.

the second you buy a XFX you have downgraded from the DirectCU2
  
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