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As many of you are aware by now Gentle Typhoons are discontinued since Scythe will no longer be distributor of them. Since I am unable to find any more Ap-15's I was wondering wouldn't PWM AP-29's(3000 RPM) be just as good? If I were to turn them down to to around 1600-1800 RPM wouldn't they be just as quite as the AP-15?

Since I have no experience with them, I was hoping someone here might have experience with the AP-29's that could comment on this.
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I have ap30 that start at 7v but squeak until 8. Might be same with ap29 Im not sure
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post #3 of 21
I have AP-15s, not AP-29s, so not sure how low of RPMs you can get the AP-29s, but even if you get them down to the 1600 to 1800 RPM range, they would be about the same as the AP-15s at full speed.

The AP-15s are great and I'm very happy with them, but I would never want them running full speed all the time, still pretty noisy.

If you are going for quiet you may not be happy with those AP-29s. I've heard the AP-14s are still available, they're slightly slower than the AP-15s, but still a good choice.
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I have both the AP-14 and 15's. I need more

What I dislike about GT's is the lack of speed control on them. People have said AP15's make weird noise when you try to lower them(with voltage control) down by 200-300 rpm.

Does anyone know how if the AP-29's can be lowered to around 2100-1400rpm on PWM.
Edited by Nightingale - 3/7/14 at 3:58pm
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1. AP 29 isn't really in the same class as AP 15. If you are looking for an AP 15 replacement an AP 14 would probably suit you much better, they are very similar fans (and not nearly as popular so they are still available all over the place).
2. If you do go with the AP-29 yes you can slow them down to the mid teens but they are a little louder (to my ears at least) than AP-15s are at that speed.
3. AP 15 can still be had if you look around; pretty sure FrozenCPU has them for instance.
4. I'm not sure why you mentioned PWM, neither AP 15 or AP 29 are PWM fans.
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post #6 of 21
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AP-29 can be modded to PWM since the pcb has a solder point for it.



See what I was thinking was it would be great to be able to control the speed of the fan and create a fan profile with PWM.
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forgot to mention, I plan on using a spare Swiftech 8 Way PWM splitter to power 4 of these suckers up.

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Interesting read. It seems the the ap-15's push slightly more air at 1850 than the AP-29's at the same speed, due to the lack of a stabilizer ring. However it's that very stabilizer ring that prevents the ap-29 from making strange resonance noise when changing rpm's which the AP-15's have problems with as reported by many people here. Plus you can't control the AP-15's with pwm nor create a fan profile. Also AP-15's have a slightly quieter sound sound when operating at lower speeds than 1850 over the ap-29.

I can't get ahold of AP-15's here in canada, plus I can get the AP29's for super cheap.
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My guess it they will work just fine. I think AP-29 is 7 blades and AP-15 is 9 blades.

I know it's not the same but I use Thermalright TY-140 and TY-147 1300rpm fans as well as TY-143 2500rpm fans all the time and find little if any difference in the way they sound and perform up to 1300rpm. The fan are indentical excpet for color and TY-143 being 1200rpm faster.. The TY-143 sounds and preforms the same at same rpm.

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