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No I haven't tried. I am actually using an Acer ultrawide monitor 3440x1440 with Freesync. I believe this is the black screen that everyone talks about with the 290x. Whenever I get close to 125mV at anything beyond 1150Ghz on the core, I get black screen. Both cards do this. I need to use Dispalyport in order to use Freesync.

I've tried everything I can think of here....

New PSU hasn't had an effect (at least anything worth noting)
I've tried using individual 6, 8, 8 pin connectors to the Lightning rather than using a shared 6+8, 8 combination. Still no fix.
I also tried to mess with my System Agent voltage because I read that it can help stabilize this black screen stuff, but it didn't work either.
Again, this isn't a temperature issue. Temps are awesome I think at less than 55 on load. VRM temps never break 50. Yet I can't overclock any further than when I was on air...........which sadly really bums me out because I feel now my waterblocks were a waste. However, the noise and heat is way better now than having the fans. Plus I was throttling like crazy with the heatsinks. I'm just....disappointed.

I can push my Lightnings to 1200/1500 and 3dMark Vantage will run...but I can't see any artifacts because the screen goes black.. I goes in and out of signal but I can still hear that 3DMark is running and rendering (I can hear the "render noise" coming from the cards). If it weren't for the black screens then......I think these cards would be pretty good.

So as it stands right now... I'm looking at 1150/1500 for an overclock...while on water....and this is exactly the same overclock I got with the heatsink and fan setup. Totally bummed about it.

I would still try different outputs or a different monitor just to test. Something is not right.
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Okay. Interesting update and I don't know what it means:

I disabled crossfire, plugged my DP cable into the bottom card, clocked it up to 1200 at +150mv and ran 3DMark Vantage. Again, the black screen appears. Lame.

So, I exit out of 3DMark Vantage and load up Kombuster and stress the GPU like crazy and this is where it turns for the interesting: I'm sitting at 1225/1600 +200mv with combuster. No artifacts, no freezing, NO BLACK SCREEN (loss of signal). Wow, I didn't think it was working but Afterburner monitoring says I'm doing that speed, temperatures reflect it too. So, I ran it for about 30 minutes, temps hit 65c peak.

However, the minute I get back into the desktop and load chrome to browse I get a black screen. Signal comes back though. So the top and bottom cards are doing this. Can't be by chance and it's obvious the bottom card is a beast at 1225/1600...so I need to see if:

...the top card is equally as good when crossfire is disabled?
...I get the same results in Kombustor?

....Maybe the top card is bad? hmmm....
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Okay. Interesting update and I don't know what it means:

I disabled crossfire, plugged my DP cable into the bottom card, clocked it up to 1200 at +150mv and ran 3DMark Vantage. Again, the black screen appears. Lame.

So, I exit out of 3DMark Vantage and load up Kombuster and stress the GPU like crazy and this is where it turns for the interesting: I'm sitting at 1225/1600 +200mv with combuster. No artifacts, no freezing, NO BLACK SCREEN (loss of signal). Wow, I didn't think it was working but Afterburner monitoring says I'm doing that speed, temperatures reflect it too. So, I ran it for about 30 minutes, temps hit 65c peak.

However, the minute I get back into the desktop and load chrome to browse I get a black screen. Signal comes back though. So the top and bottom cards are doing this. Can't be by chance and it's obvious the bottom card is a beast at 1225/1600...so I need to see if:

...the top card is equally as good when crossfire is disabled?
...I get the same results in Kombustor?

....Maybe the top card is bad? hmmm....

Interesting findings. Keep testing and trying things. I only get a black screen/lose video signal when I turn my monitor off. If it is left off for a few hours when I turn it back on there's no video. After psychically disconnecting the DVI cable and re-connecting it the picture comes back. My old card NEVER did this but I also updated to W10 so not sure which is the culprit.

Anybody have links for those supposed core/mem ratios when OC'in? I haven't heard of that before.
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Alright, now we are getting some where. Interesting so far, check it out:

GPU 1 - can overclock to 1200/1550
GUP 2 - can overclock to 1225/1600 (I haven't pushed further 1225)

I'm finding a pattern with the black screen flicker issues.

Seems to revolve around memory, maybe?

So...the screen will only flicker and go black when I'm on the desktop within windows and in 3Dmark Vantage

When Kombustor loads, I run the GPU Core Burn in tests. The screen will flicker once or twice then the screen will come back and Kombuster will be rendering and everything is fine for 30 minutes+. Once I exit out of Kombuster, the flickering begins. Move the mouse..it flickers....select a new setting....it flickers...hover my mouse over Afterburner and adjust a setting...it flickers.

So I loaded up the Kombuster Memory burn in test...and it flickers like crazy. Non-stop flickering as the monitor goes in and out of sync.

So I can't get it to flicker during Core Burn in, but I can get it to flicker like crazy during the Memory burn in test.

What could be going on over here? 1200/1550 overclock seems more reasonable to me and the cards can do it, if it weren't for the flickering.


Edit: Testing in Crossfire @ 1200/1550 to see what happens in Kombustor.

Edit 2: Setting cards to Crosffire @ 1200/1550 causes mega flicker in Kombustor GPU Core burn test.

And now I'm back to square one. 15.8 beta drivers cause the issues as well. So it's not drivers. Maybe a setting in Afterburner or CCC?

I don't know....maybe my cards just can't do ****. frown.gif
Edited by sushiglobster - 9/22/15 at 8:19pm
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Alright, now we are getting some where. Interesting so far, check it out:

GPU 1 - can overclock to 1200/1550
GUP 2 - can overclock to 1225/1600 (I haven't pushed further 1225)

I'm finding a pattern with the black screen flicker issues.

Seems to revolve around memory, maybe?

So...the screen will only flicker and go black when I'm on the desktop within windows and in 3Dmark Vantage

When Kombustor loads, I run the GPU Core Burn in tests. The screen will flicker once or twice then the screen will come back and Kombuster will be rendering and everything is fine for 30 minutes+. Once I exit out of Kombuster, the flickering begins. Move the mouse..it flickers....select a new setting....it flickers...hover my mouse over Afterburner and adjust a setting...it flickers.

So I loaded up the Kombuster Memory burn in test...and it flickers like crazy. Non-stop flickering as the monitor goes in and out of sync.

So I can't get it to flicker during Core Burn in, but I can get it to flicker like crazy during the Memory burn in test.

What could be going on over here? 1200/1550 overclock seems more reasonable to me and the cards can do it, if it weren't for the flickering.


Edit: Testing in Crossfire @ 1200/1550 to see what happens in Kombustor.

Wanted to try this out on my card but Kombustor won't even open. It's the 64bit version...

Edit: didn't have the latest version, now it's working. Doing the 3GB memory burner at 1200/1500, so far no issue. Let it run for 300 seconds: 53C on core(+150mV), 48C on VRM, and didn't get any flickering.
Edited by M3TAl - 9/22/15 at 8:35pm
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Wanted to try this out on my card but Kombustor won't even open. It's the 64bit version...

Edit: didn't have the latest version, now it's working. Doing the 3GB memory burner at 1200/1500, so far no issue. Let it run for 300 seconds: 53C on core(+150mV), 48C on VRM, and didn't get any flickering.

Hmmm.....well let me explain the flickering: It's not flickering in that it's super quick, but the monitor will lose sync for like...2-3 seconds then come back up....or just not come back up at all until it's stops processing/rendering something like my mouse moving...a website fully loads. If I scroll down a website, the flicker will occur with every scroll movement.

Not sure what's up at all at this point.

EDIT: I'm in Crossfire again (still...) and I'm at +100 Core, +75 Memory, Aux +0, Power Limit +25, Memory @ 1550, Core @ 1175 and Kombustor and Furmark run just fine with no flicker and so far there is no flicker on the desktop.

I did adjust some stuff in the settings menu of Afterburner, but....I'm not really sure it would matter. No idea why it's so inconsistent. I had trouble with flickers and such at these settings before.

EDIT 2: Ran Furmark under Xtreme Burn in with post-processing. Core 1175 stable at 135mv and Memory stable at 1550. Same voltages as above. Loaded GTAV to see just how stable...and my system rebooted. Uhg...first time that's happened.

EDIT 3: After the system rebooted, I loaded the same settings back up...launched GTAV and instantly it started to lose signal to the monitor...a little bit during the start of GTAV but once in game it was unplayable. Monitor would lose signal and only come up now and then for a split second. Completely unplayable. However, no flickering on desktop or while in FurMark Extreme burn in testing. W T F
Edited by sushiglobster - 9/22/15 at 9:57pm
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290X card will TDP limited when running furmark. This is why with furmark you didn't get flickering screen because actually gpu doesn't work hard enough. Try bring down memory to 1520.
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I'll give it a shot. I'm pretty sure my cards are just average. Nothing special... frown.gif
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I'll give it a shot. I'm pretty sure my cards are just average. Nothing special... frown.gif
I can bench up to 1200/1600 without artifacting or screen flickering but I can only get games stable at 1110/1500 (tested with BF4). Mostly I only games at 1000/1300. I don't see the need of higher frequency when gaming with a pair of 290's.
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did msi quit making these cards? i was gonna buy a second one but amazon is the only place i can find one and they want over $500.
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