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Well, you could try upping the fsb as explained in the guide. Start with small increments and work your way up, paying attention to the north bridge and HTT speeds. You may have to loosen your memory timings too after say 210 fsb. Try 9-10-10-30 or 10-10-10-30 (or upping the ram voltage, but I wouldnt go more than 1.6volts on 1.5volt ram).

Are you using the onboard video ? I believe that would get overclocked too, so that has to be watched because that would cause system instability. You can change that so that it doesnt go far over stock settings in your GPU Overclocking options.

I would definately put a fan blowing on the VRMs. (better yet, custom vrm heatsinks plus a fan)


You do have a fantastic cpu cooler on a motherboard not really made for overclocking.
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post #12 of 23
Get a better motherboard or modify the VRM section.

Talking from experience and plenty of knowledge, that motherboard has the weakest, non-cooled and highest throttling phase design ive known.

Google voltage regulation module and AM3+ phase lists.

You'll soon see why, and to others yes i do know that the 4100 is low wattage but i also know that motherboard throttles that cpu under full load even at stock.
post #13 of 23
Running torture tests on that motherboard is just asking for a burned out motherboard.


A voltage setting and the actual voltage that winds up being delivered can vary pretty wildly. The "setting" is just a goal, but the regulation system often fails to achieve the goal. Beefier VRM designs do a better job, but they all require experimentation with LLC levels to get tighter regulation for a given power demand.

Watch CPU voltage WHILE the CPU is under a load and see what happens. It is VERY unlikely that the motherboard is HOLDing 1.55V under a load.
     
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Thanks again guys, think ill give 4.6 a miss and stick with 4.5

This is my system after 3 hours on blend. Do you guys think that everything looks ok, i.e voltages and temps?

post #15 of 23
The cpu temps look fine, as expected with that cpu cooler. In your case, its the vrm temps you have to look out for. While running prime95 for a while, put your finger on a vrm and see how long you can hold it there. Of course, if you have a temp probe or infrared thermometer, you could just read it.
    
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Careful, the mosfets may burn you.
     
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Heh, theres a scale somewhere. If you cant hold it for like 5 seconds, then its over 160F IIRC.
    
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Yea, but those mosfets could be 100C runnning hard. I'm not so worried about the finger (a very mild burn will undoubtedly heal, and certainly won't be the only hot thing you've ever touched (on purpose or by accident), but the damage someone might do upon the "surprise" of feeling the burn sensation; A quick snap of a wrist (reflex) to escape the danger next to a huge HSF in a computer case with potentially sharp edges could break something or cause a larger injury.

I use the "touch" method too, just be aware that things in there can be hotter than you might expect.
     
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post #19 of 23
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Just ran IntelBurnTest and about 5 mins in i touched the mosfets and could keep my finger there for as long as i wanted too.

Might help that my rear exhaust is a noctua 120mm fan and I have a 200mm exhaust on the top of the case right bove the d14 heatsink, plus the middle fan on the d14 under hangs the heatsink slightly pushing air over the mosfets.

I think with a good motherboard my cpu would hit 5ghz with ease, i just dont think the motherboard i have is stable enough for a 4.6 overclock.

I mean the cpu never reaches 50c the mobo temp is 27c all the time and the cooling of the case is fantastic.
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actually just touched the mosfets again and struggled too hold it for 5 seconds. My finger is still tingling now lol.

Reckon i should drop the cpu from 4.5?
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