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For CPU and mobo's i stuck with intel,
Not because I was fanboying them, but becuase their naming scheme was easier, thus making it simpler to keep up with the tech w/o any research. (4xxx is 4th gen while 3xxx is 3rd gen)

and their mobo is simple also,
Z87 or Z77 to indicate which gen it is. and the Z series to indicate OC cabilility. etc etc etc

but however, with AMD, their naming scheme seems so random to me.
they dont follow any pattern, or set.

can someone give me a run down please?

in the future, i would like to build some rigs thats not all intel based just becuz i cant get AMD's naming scheme right.
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For FX, 4/6/8 first number etc fx-4xxx, fx-8xxx states number of threads. fx-81xx would be bulldozer, fx83xx would be piledriver (1 and 3)
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For FX, 4/6/8 first number etc fx-4xxx, fx-8xxx states number of threads. fx-81xx would be bulldozer, fx83xx would be piledriver (1 and 3)

I did some research on some other forums and found these info.

1) AMD cpu are typically 4 digits.
2) the 1st digit signifies cores (like u said, threads mean cores right?)
3)2nd number signifies the generation
4)3rd number signifies the speed/performance, (ie: 4x5x > 4x0x
are these correct? also whats the 4th digit signify?

and are there anything else i need to know?
and what does the bolded part mean? is it just the codename? like haswel is for 4th gen cpu?
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Not really sure for 3'rd/4'th number if they mean anything particularly, it's usually stuff like fx8320 vs 8350, 8350 is just higher stock clock and better binned on average (oc's a bit higher) AFAIK

First number is threads. All of the bulldozer/piledriver FX CPU's use modules, so they have two threads per "module" and a lot of duplicated resources, but it's not entirely fair to call them cores. An fx-8350 has four modules and 8 threads

x1xx was Bulldozer, first revision of modular FX.
x3xx was Piledriver, second rev

third rev is Steamroller, fourth is Excavator. We don't have steamroller FX atm, only in Kaveri (fm2+ apu's). Yea, they're "code-names"
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post #5 of 23
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On this list,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors
i cant find FX cpu's

only phenom FX, is that the same thing?

also, im assuming FX series are AMD's newest CPU as of now?
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FX - Main family name
Bulldozer - Under FX we have the actual architecture in use
Zambezi - The model or core (named Bulldozer core)
Piledriver - The model or core name (named Piledriver cores).

So
FX - Family Name
6xxx - Number of cores or threads
6200 - Second iteration of Bulldozer cores (a.k.a clock boost)
6300 - Series name - So 3 means 1st generation Piledriver
6350 - 3 means Piledriver, 50 means iteration (a.k.a a clock boost basically)

The zero? smile.gif I have no clue.

Their naming scheme is odd and I don't really know if there is any actual pattern to it as such (no the last digits anyway).

Then you have their APUs, such as the A4, A6, A8 and A10. No idea about the whole A4, A6 thing. But basically

A4 and A6 - Dual core parts. A6 has more graphical cores and a main CPU core boost compared to A4.
A8 and A10 - Quad core parts. A10 has more graphical cores and a main CPU core boost compared to A8.

The notation is the same:
A8-3800 series - 3 means the series name, Lynx (Llano cores) - FM1 platform - based on AMD Stars architecture
A8-5800 series - 5 means the series name, Virgo (Trinity cores) - FM2 platform - Based on Piledriver
A8-6800 series - 6 means the series name, Richland (Richland cores) - FM2 platform - Based on Piledriver
A8-7600 Series - 7 means the series name, Kaveri - FM2+ platform - Based on Steamroller (newest design).


AMD Phenom is an older architecture.

Basically, the higher you go in the "numbers" the newer and faster it will be smile.gif


It's very similar to any naming scheme really, just looks a bit different. I think you just come to "get it".
post #7 of 23
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TYVM!!!

I will have to keep this page as reference, but i get the gist of the naming scheme, now

however, i am still confused on what FX is and what you mean by
"FX - family name."

is FX like "phenom II" or the i5 in intel ?

basicaly a name of a series?

also, is bulldozer and piledriver part of FX ?
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For CPU and mobo's i stuck with intel,
Not because I was fanboying them, but becuase their naming scheme was easier, thus making it simpler to keep up with the tech w/o any research. (4xxx is 4th gen while 3xxx is 3rd gen)
not really that simple... Intel Core i7-4960X Ivy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (Turbo 4GHz) LGA 2011 130W 6-Core Desktop Processor (not Haswell)
my Pentium G3430 is Haswell though....
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TYVM!!!

I will have to keep this page as reference, but i get the gist of the naming scheme, now

however, i am still confused on what FX is and what you mean by
"FX - family name."

is FX like "phenom II" or the i5 in intel ?

basicaly a name of a series?

also, is bulldozer and piledriver part of FX ?

FX is the series.
much like "core" is to intel.
and phenom were to AMD previously.
bulldozer and piledriver both have FX parts, but bulldozer and piledriver refer to architecture changes and revisions.
there are also bulldozer and piledriver cores found within A series parts from AMD.

and to compare to intel again...in the core series you have sandy bridge parts, ivy bridge, haswell, etc.
all fall under the core name.
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not really that simple... Intel Core i7-4960X Ivy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (Turbo 4GHz) LGA 2011 130W 6-Core Desktop Processor (not Haswell)
my Pentium G3430 is Haswell though....


how does that happen? lol

how come a 4xxx isnt haswell? was that released before haswell was out?

because it would make sense TO ME if the 4960x isnt called haswell, even if it is 4th gen, if its using ivy bride architecture.

and the G3430 called a haswell because its using 4th gen haswel tech.
(which i am assuming?? since its given those specific code names?)
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